Time-turning (Was: World Building And The Potterverse)

Zara zgirnius at yahoo.com
Fri Apr 13 01:52:12 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 167452


> >zgirnius
> >I believe Dumbledore's 
> cryptic remark about saving not one but two  innocent lives, 
indicates 
> Bucky always got away and is a clue that this is  the right 
paradigm, 
> in the sense that it is what Rowling  intended.
> <snip>
>  
> Nikkalmati
>  
> I just want to comment on this remark of DD's.  Who was saved?  I  
count at 
> least 3 innocent lives:  Sirius, Buckbeak and Harry himself (and  
probably 
> Hermione), so why does he say 2 lives?
>  

zgirnius:
Sorry, I was almost as cryptic as Albus. It is my opinion that Bucky 
escaped, and Dumbledore, of course, knew about it before he saw 
Hermione and Harry in the hospital wing. I think he saw or heard 
something then that made him think Harry and Hermione were involved 
in Bucky's escape. Remember he accompanied Fudge and the headsman to 
the hut for the execution. But he also knew that they had no memory 
of having rescued him, or they would have mentioned it. He concluded 
that maybe they rescued Bucky in *their* (subjective) future, and 
suggested that they Time-Turn, since Bucky's rescue made him pretty 
sure they would, as they were present (he thought) to rescue Bucky.

He *hoped* (did not know) that as a result of that Bucky rescue 
mission, they would also help Sirius escape before the Ministry 
representatives could carry out the sentence. That is the second 
innocent life, the life of Sirius, locked in a tower awaiting the 
Dementor's Kiss.

If the 'past never changes, it happens only once' theory of time 
travel is true, (that is the theory I have been advocating in all my 
posts) Dumbledore would know Bucky would stay safe - he already 
escaped. He would also know that Harry and Sirius of the past who 
were almost Kissed would stay safe (they were already mysteriously 
rescued). The one life whose disposition he did not know was 
Sirius's, so it was possible that Time-Turned Harry and Hermione had 
just rescued him, and noone had noticed yet. He hoped that might be 
the case.








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