Time-turning

puduhepa98 at aol.com puduhepa98 at aol.com
Sat Apr 14 03:42:47 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 167514

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>Carol:
>Exactly. We can go by the canon I cited in a previous  post, willingly
suspending our disbelief as to whether Time Travel, if it  really
existed, would work as JKR depicts it, or we can let logic and  a
knowledge of physics get in our way. We have to suspend our disbelief
to  believe in magic in the first place, in spells or potions or
magical  creatures or Time Turners, so why not suspend it a little
further and let it  work as JKR says it does? (Not quite as *Hermione*
thinks, though--obviously,  your future self can't kill your past self
or there would be no future self  in the first place. What matters is
not that they don't take action, thinking  that they are *changing* the
past when they are actually *creating* that  past, but that they not be
seen by anyone--except for Dumbledore, who seems  to have been aware of
two Harrys and two Hermiones and given them a little  nudge out the
hospital wing door so that events could take shape as he knew  they had
already done, with the exception, as you said earlier, of  Sirius
Black, whose fate he did not know--which explains "more than  one
innocent life may be spared"--he knew that Buckbeak had been saved  and
hoped that Black might be as well.)

Nikkalmati
 
So when DD sent H/H out to go back in time how much did he know?  He  
witnessed that Buckbeak was not killed.  He had seen that Sirius, Harry and  Hermione 
had been brought back from the lake by SS, after having survived the  
mysterious gathering and disappearance of the dementors.  He was worried  that Sirius 
was about to be de-souled.  So what did he think the kids would  do and how 
many would be saved? 
 
 Hermione only figured out they were to save Buckbeak when she saw  that they 
had gone back to just before his execution.  They winged it from  there.  
They intervened to save dog-Sirius from the werewolf and then  followed the 
dementors to the lake and Harry ended up saving himself.  If  DD knew H/H had been 
in danger by the lake, why didn't he hint that they were to  save themselves?  
That seems pretty important to leave to chance.   OTOH, was he not concerned 
because H/H had clearly been saved already and time  could not be changed?  
Was he primarily concerned that Sirius have been  saved in the previous 10 
minutes?
 
Nikkalmati  




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