predictions/Abused!Harry/?s:baptism,wireless,pants/Patronus/LV lifestyle
Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)
catlady at wicca.net
Sun Apr 15 05:15:07 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 167544
Dave Hardenbrook wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/167198>:
<< Wormtail will kill Greyback, which also results in the "curing"
of all Fenrir's victims, including Lupin! >>
And of all Fenrir's victims' victims? If killing a werewolf cured
hiser victims, wouldn't something have been mentioned about it in
FABULOUS BEASTS? At that there are tales of spontaneous remissions?
<< We find out how the Bloody Baron got bloody (and why Peeves fears
him). >>
I sure hope we find out why Peeves fears him. I like to think, because
the Baron is the only ghost who can still do magic, thus having both
ghost power and magic power. But I have yet to invent a good reason
why the Baron would have retained his magic powers when other ghosts
don't. If Carol's theory that magic power is literally in one's blood
is correct, then the Baron could have retained his magic power because
he retained his blood (by keeping it on his exterior) but also we
could all become a witch or wizard temporarily by getting a blood
transfusion from a witch or wizard.
Kvapost wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/167207>:
<< It's amazing how DD chose to protect Harry from big bad magical
bullies but not from Muggle ones and, wait for it, not *from himself*.
It's not unusual for a kid in Harry's situation to actually commit
suicide. Wouldn't that mess up things for DD and WW. I know, I know,
there wouldn't be any HP books then. :) >>
DD may have had faith that Harry wouldn't commit suicide because he
(DD) believed that Harry-suicide would be prevented by the protection
spells.
That may also be the reason that DD had faith that Harry's abusive
upbringing would not lead to him growing up to be a broken terrified
coward who'd do anything to appease threatening people (something like
Pettigrew in GoF) or a cynical tough guy who'd do anything to triumph
(something like Tom Riddle) nor completely delusional and in no touch
with reality.
I have long had another theory: I think Lily was able, with her magic,
to put an image of herself in her baby's mind, that would be like an
'imaginary mum' (by analogy with 'imaginary friend') who would cuddle
Harry and tell him that he's a good kid who doesn't deserve Dursley
abuse and tell him about how decent people behave, thus being that one
caring adult said to be necessary to even a 'resilient' child's
survival of serious abuse... I kind of think Lily used her last magic
to put this image in his head intentionally, instead of using her last
magic in one last attempt to escape Voldemort. That is the heroic
self-sacrifce that canon credits her, accepting her own death because
it was more important to her to give this protection (from abusive
Dursleys) of her love. (I admit I don't know why she would do that if
she really believed that he would be dead seconds after she was.)
When Harry resisted the Imperius Curse, the Curse's Moody-voice in his
head told him to jump up on the desk, and "another voice had awoken in
the back of his brain. Stupid to do, really, said the voice." I
believe that that other voice is what's left of the image-Lily after
all these years; she doesn't appear often, she appears as Harry's
voice instead of her own, but she still is caring for Harry -- and
still has free will.
In addition, so far we've always seen Harry wondering and trying to
find out about his father, and not about his mother. Some say that's a
plot device because JKR is saving some big surprise about Lily, and
some say it's normal because Harry is 11 to 14 so far, puberty and
adolescence, and much more concerned about a male image to identify
with. But *I* say that he doesn't search so much for Lily because,
unknown to himself, he already has her with him.
Carol wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/167215>:
<< Questions such as why wizards celebrate Christmas--or hold
baptisms-- >>
I don't think we actually know that wizards hold baptisms. We know
that Harry was christened as a baby, but his mother was Muggle-born
and could have insisted on observing a Muggle practise.
Betsy Hp wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/167218>:
<< I *totally* have those questions. Like, what did they have before
a "wireless" and did it actually have wires? >>
I am absolutely certain that Wizarding Wizardless was invented in
imitation of Muggle wireless, named after Muggle wireless, and did not
have a magical wired precursor. The Muggle precursor of Muggle
wireless was the telegraph ('wire' as in 'wire transfer' or 'wire
service') and I'd like some 19th century wizard to have invented
Spellograph as an imitation thereof, but I don't envision Spellograph
having wires. I imagine a spell cast on two quills that what the
operator writes with one quill, the other will also write in its
distant location.
<< How come they got the concept of sweaters, but couldn't figure out
pants? >>
Well, the only one we *KNOW* didn't get the concept of pants was Old
Archie, and we don't know that he got sweaters, either. Arthur wore
trousers for his QWC Muggle disguise.
In my mind, sweaters over robes look ugly; they should be worn under
the robes. Maybe in Rowling's mind's eye, the robes had narrow enough
sleeves that there's enough room in the sweater sleeves for both the
human arm and the cloth sleeve of the 'under' garment. Maybe in
Rowling's mind's eye, the robes are designed in some way that wearing
a sweater over one wouldn't look any worse than wearing a sweater over
a skirt and blouse outfit.
<< That the Quidditch team straddles brooms and flies about with great
speed *while wearing robes* bothers me quite a bit. >>
I imagine that the Quidditch robes are not as shown in any of the
illustrations, but instead are robes whose skirt has a center slit
front and back to make room for the broomstick, and a non-flying-up
spell on them. Maybe a round hole for the broomstick to go through,
rather than a slit ... then the robe could be sewn together at the
bottom, like a sleeping bag, which would prevent it from flying up
over the player's head and blinding him.
Ryan wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/167244>:
<< I do think however, that the form of the patronus is linked to the
inspiration for the Patronus. Which makes me wonder why Ron's patronus
is a Jack Russell terrier and Cho Chang's is a swan. >>
Carol answered in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/167259>:
<< I wonder if we're not confusing the concepts of Animagus and
Patronus here. A Patronus, according to JKR, is a "spirit guardian," a
protector rather than an indication of the caster's personality and
character, as the Animagus form clearly is. Sirius Black's Animagus
form, a Grimlike black dog, reflected his personality and character,
just as Peter Pettigrew's rat form reflects his, but I doubt that
their Patronus forms were identical to their Animagus forms. >>
I think it was JKR, not us, who confused the idea of Animagus and
Patronus. She said she would want her Animagus form to be an otter,
and she gave the otter to Hermione, her Mary Sue character, as a
Patronus. I don't think that meant that Hermione feels that she is
protected by having the Author on her side, and I don't think Hermione
knows that the Author's Animagus form is an otter. Otters are known
for playfulness as well as effectiveness, which seems appropriate to
JKR with all her puns and other wordplay, but not appropriate to
Hermione, who shows no sign of having a sense of humor.
I think Sirius might well have the same Patronus as Animagus form,
meaning that he feels he is protected by himself and his own powers.
I can see Cho as a swan Animagus -- they're beautiful, but known to
viciously bite the kind humans who are feeding them -- but can't see
her as self-confident enough to feel protected by her own powers.
Still, she could have one swan as Animagus form and a different swan
for Patronus, showing that she feels her beauty is her strongest power.
Kvapost wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/167395>:
<< 1) What would [Voldemort's] lifestyle be like? I mean, where does
he live, what does he eat, what on earth does he do with his time??
With all that eternity that he's got on his hands at the moment.
Because once Potter is out of his way (as he hopes), he's going to be
so bored with no challenge. >>
I imagine he's still living in the old Riddle House where he hid out
in GoF, with a Death Eater servant he finds less annoying than
Wormtail, who cooks for him. He plans his re-conquest of wizarding
Britain, debriefs his spies, gives orders to his henchmen, tortures
some of them for fun. Maybe he reads a lot (that's what any of us
would do).
<< 2) What is he getting out of being an outcast? I mean, if he wanted
to merely stay immortal, there was no need to be a meanie-poo to the
whole WW: you need your 7 Horcruxes? - fine, make them, hide them, go
to Hawaii and enjoy surfing. I know he's a sociopath and a
megalomaniac with an agenda (purebloods vs mudbloods/muggles). But
still, to be immortal and be hiding for eternity? Goodness me. >>
He doesn't intend to be in hiding for eternity. He intends to conquer
the British wizards and then launch a war to conquer the European
wizards and eventually conquer all the world. After conquering just
the British wizarding world, he would live in a palace made of gems
where he would be surrounded by sycophants praising him and inventing
endless new ways to torture Muggles for his amusement. I don't believe
he cares a bit about purebloods versus Mudbloods, using that only as a
recruiting technique, altho' his hatred of Muggle (because his father
was one) may be sincere.
I don't understand why Voldemort is so determined to avoid death, as
it seems to me that his great enjoyment is to destroy things, like
cities full of people, and maybe eventually the Sun (thus causing
wizards everywhere to fear his name, as Diary!Tom said was his goal),
and eventually he'll run out of things to destroy and get as bored as
you imagine.
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