The death of Emmeline Vance (WAS: Re: Snape the Spy (WAS Re: Who Killed Sir...)

[Jen Reese]

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zgirnius:
> The other thing I note is that Snape speaks of her death in the same 
> sentence as he brings up Sirius's. This again seems to make it 
> reasonable to me to suggest that the deaths were consequences of the 
> same incident. If Snape passed information to Voldemort during the 
> planning stages of the DoM operation, and both Vance and Black were 
> casualties of that mission, then this statement by Snape would ring 
> true to Bellatrix. 

Jen:  You've reminded me of something that doesn't match up in OOTP.
When Molly is talking to Harry about saving Arthur, she mentions
Dumbledore coming up with a cover story because 'you've no idea what
trouble he would have been in otherwise, look at poor Sturgis...' (chap. 22,
p. 480, US ed.)

Molly doesn't seem to be covering there, acting like something happened
to Sturgis other than the MOM finding him in the wee hours of the
morning and sending him to Azkaban for months.  Does that mean 
Dumbledore may have had suspicions about Sturgis that he didn't pass
on to the Order members and if so, why not?  It's hard to believe the Trio
came up with something Dumbledore didn't.

Maybe I've just misread what Molly means, her words have a double meaning.
That's just not something I think of her character pulling off--verbal nuance. ;)

All that to say if Snape passed info early on re: the Order guarding the
door, why didn't Dumbledore pass this info on to the Order members?  That's
a fairly large omission, the difference between saying they might be at risk
if LV and the DE's find out about them vs. LV already *knows* about them
from the start (DD wouldn't have to include how he knows this if he's protecting
Snape's secret-agent status).  And if Snape didn't pass the information from
day 1, then his information was useless because LV found out as early as August
when Lucius gets to Sturgis.  Snape would either have been punished and
wouldn't have risked telling Bella or Narcissa, or LV didn't tell him he already
knew about the guard and he's stringing Snape along (as I see the options).

Another thing I'm not clear about after perusing OOTP for a little while is
whether the guard ended after Arthur was hurt.  When Harry and Co. arrive at
the MOM, Harry mentioned being concerned the noise will attract a security guard
but not an Order guard.  And then again when he saw the 'plain black door'
in the DOM, he didn't wonder why no one was guarding it or what happened to
the Order member.  Do we get canon whether the guard continues or if the mission
is considered compromised and they move to plan B, Occlumency??  

Jen