OOTP and Dumbledore

[puduhepa98 at aol.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 167814

>MusicalBetsy
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>Another quote I found very telling is when DD and Harry are back at  
Hogwarts having their little chat, and one of the first things DD 
says  to Harry is, "I know how you are feeling, Harry" (pg. 823). 
That's a pretty  bold thing to say unless he *really* does know how 
Harry feels. On the next  page, DD even tells him how he feels when 
he states, "You care so much you  feel as though you will bleed to 
death with the pain of it." (pg. 824) Now  doesn't that sound like DD 
has been in a similar situation? I wonder if this  has anything to do 
with what DD was talking about when taking the potion in  HBP. It 
sounds like there is some pretty important event from DD's past that  
Harry needs to learn about.

>And finally, there's the prophecy.  There has been some discussion on 
here about whether it will be Harry who  destroys Voldy or some other 
person, but the prophecy is very clear about it  - "And either *must 
die* at the hand of the other..." (pg. 841). In fact,  Harry asks 
DD, "So does that mean that...that one of us has got to kill the  
other one...in the end?" "Yes," said Dumbledore. (pg. 844). And  
interestingly, DD does not correct him by saying he can destroy him  
using other means.
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Nikkalmati
You may not have seen it, but there has been some speculation that "the  
Other" is a third person, perhaps even Neville, who will destroy LV.  The  quote 
you give from DD at the MOM does seem to support that DD does not want to  kill 
LV.  I would vote that he does not want Harry to kill LV  either.  The 
discussion about the prophecy is just that - its about what  the prophecy says.  
Recall that DD does not believe in the prophecy or  prophecies, as such.  By 
believing the prophecy, you make t come true, so  Harry is free to do something 
else.  
DD seems to believe that each person must learn the important lessons in  
life on  their own.  This belief works to advance the plot, but I  sometimes  
want to yell "Just tell him for ***'s sake."  (It doesn't  work). 
 
I tend to agree with other listees who have suggested that Sibyl actually  
does correctly predict the future but misinterprets what she sees.  The  
incident with the Tarot cards gives us this hint.  Also, her grandmother  was named 
Cassandra.  Cassandra was the Trojan seer who angered Apollo  somehow.  
Perhaps, she turned him down?   In any case, he cursed  her by making her always 
correctly predict the future, but made it so no one  would believe her.  Imagine 
the frustration.  Sibyl seems to be in a  similar position, except that she 
herself doesn't always believe or doesn't  recall her own predictions.
 
Nikkalmati (who bets Sibyl is right on the  money).




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