The Good, the Not so Good and the Downright Ridiculous Snape
Goddlefrood
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Sun Apr 22 02:53:12 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 167827
> Goddlefrood:
>
> >>> Goddlefrood, with a little date for you once
> >>> more, this time 1492, the death year of Nearly
> >>> Headless Nick (and I wonder if JKR, when putting
> >>> this date had taken account of the Julian Calendar?).
> Bart:
>
> >> Also, the year of the Spanish Inquisition.
>
> Nikkalmati:
>
> > Bart, the Spanish Inquisition went on for over
> > 400 years with various period of activity and inactivity.
> > There was no "year of the Spanish Inquisition."
>
> houyhnhnm:
>
> 1492 may have been only the beginning of the Inquisition,
> but it was the year of the fall of Granada and with it the
> end of the /convivencia/ of Muslim Spain.
Goddlefrood:
Sorry, but no, on all responses to my origianl date. The canonical
establishment of the Inquisition, as disticnt from the Spanish
Inquisition, is in the 13th century under Pope Innocent III.
It was formally abolished in the early 19th century. The so-called
Spanish Inquisition particularly refers to the time during which
Frey Thomas de Torquemada instigated widespread persecution of
heretics, mostly in Spain. His origianl treatise to establish
that was promulgated in 1484 and effectively ended with his death.
1492 was "a" year in which the Spanish Inquisitionn continued, but
the entire period of the so-called Spanish Inquisition was only
around 30 or 40 years. The Inquisition itself existed for about
600 years altogether. Hope that may be clear ;)
The year of the Spanish going into Granada to forcefully remove
the Moors was quite a bit later, 1536 in fact. There was a battle
at Granada in 1492, the siege part of which ended on 2nd January.
The terms of the treaty the made allowed the Moors to stay. 1492
was the year in which Jews were expelled from Spain, but Moslems
only were fully removed 50 or so years later, by force.
My source for all this is "Torquenada and the Spanish Inquisition"
by Rafael Sabatini (House of Stratus). Perhaps there is some link
being made to the various words in canon that do come to us from
the Spanish Inquisition. Unfortunately all these response were so
wrong that some clarity was thought necessary.
Having said that I do thank houyhnhm for pointing out what may
have happened in Europe in the year under consideration. It would
have been a great time for all, even if witches and wizards
actually existed ;). This would be the case due to the several
leaps forward made in that year from a European perspective.
The European witches and wizards may well have enjoyed relations
with their North American counterparts a little earlier also, but
this has no real relevance, just a little fun :)
Goddlefrood who also says that 1492 was the same year in which
Lorenzo the Magnificient died :), as well as Pope Innocent VIII.
Not ready to tie all this to canon just yet, but there it is ;)
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