A Little Bit on 1692 and Hogwarts Location Speculation

Goddlefrood gav_fiji at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 25 23:39:51 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 167949

> Ann:

> Until the establishment of Hogwarts, I expect British wizards 
were all "out", as it were. Lord only knows what this did to the 
Harry Potter world's Battle of Maldon, but I'd say a gradual 
seclusion was between the late ninth century and went on... well, 
I'm not quite sure - 1500, maybe? 

Goddlefrood:

Odd, a battle that took place in Essex having an effect on the
wizarding world?. Both the Vikings and the anglo-saxons had a
strong wizarding folklore. That Grindelwald was defeated in 1945
and that JKR has acknowledged that this is not merely a 
coincidence does not mean that every Muggle battle or war has an
influence on the wide wizarding world. Is your suggestion that
there was some friction that led to the establishment of Hogwarts?
If anyone is interested here are some pictures from a website
devoted to the battle referred above:

http://www.battleofmaldon.org.uk/

That would conflict with the impression that is gleaned from the
Sorting Hat's exposition on the founding. Having said that it 
does not seem particularly relevant why Hogwarts came about and 
what it may have been. I am familiar with (your?) theory that it
was at one time the HQ for everything in the Wizarding World, that
is the MoM, a Hospital and all other wizarding geopolitical 
necessities.

It is, though, interesting to speculate on, but for the purposes 
of divination of what may happen in DH, my view, which I have
expressed a few times, is that the relevance of the founders and
Hogwarts as it is today (being split) will be for a resolution
of not only the current disunity within the houses, but also the
older schism between Salazar Slytherin and descendents and the
other founders and their descendents.

Where could Hogwarts be? This is of interest, but not really for 
the outcome of the series. Many have waded in on this matter 
previously. I offer a vision of Glencoe that could easily fit
with its being the location of Hogwarts. Take a look:

http://www.rampantscotland.com/features/glencoe.htm

Another lovely spot, even if it is not where Hogwarts actually 
is :-). The Massacre there took place in 1692, which for clarity,
but which I have also posted on before, was the year of the
International Statute of Wizarding Secrecy. Oh, and here's a map
of the location of Glencoe (left click for the big picture :)):

http://www.glencoe-nts.org.uk/Glencoe-Map-g.asp

Note the remains of a church on an island in the lake ;)

Another minor point would be that Hogwarts was not built during
the great castle building era (not inclined to give any further 
information on that, I'm afraid ;)

Additionally it could be in the Grampians, here's a random link:

http://www.aberdeentoday.co.uk/information/travel-tips/maps.htm

Another mystical place, and it agrees with an assessment I made
in another forum of the location of Hogwarts, which was that it
would be on the Eastern side of Scotland (the Highlands are more
in the West and to the North), due to the use of the east coast 
mainline to get there from Platform 9 3/4 of King's Cross, 
without changing at Edinburgh (that's E-din-brr-a).

Of course, Matthew Hopkirk would also disagree with the 
assessment of wizards and especially witches being in hiding 
before the Secrecy Statute (he was the Witchfinder General :)),
but found few and was himself later accused of being loopy, if
not a wizard himself ;)

> Ann: 

> I've always thought Hogwarts was in the Highlands proper, 
north of the Great Glen... I think that's just a coincidence, 
though. For one thing, the Glen Coe massacre was so late my 
theory wouldn't work if it affected wizards!

Goddlefrood:

Perhaps the above may assist you in your theory, which, btw I 
would be interested to see :)

One other small matter that occurred in 1692 was the death of
Thaddeus Thurkell (1632 - 1692) (refer famous wizards cards).






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