The one... to vanquish... approaches.... The one... to vanquish will be born

[esmith222002]

No: HPFGUIDX 168115

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Kemper <iam.kemper at ...> wrote:
>
> To refresh everyone, the prophecy in three easy to digest part:
> 
> 1.  The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches....
> 
> 2a.  Born to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh
> month dies... and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he
> will have the power the Dark Lord knows not...
> 
> 2b.  and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can 
live
> while the other survives....
> 
> 3.  The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as
> the seventh month dies...

I think it is most interesting when you put all this together. 

The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches. Born to 
those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month dies and 
the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will have the power 
the Dark Lord knows not and either must die at the hand of the other 
for neither can live while the other survives. The one with the power 
to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as the seventh month dies.

If you consider the middle sentence, it really doesn't flow i.e. it 
doesn't sound like one whole sentence. If you compare this prophecy 
to the prophecy that we have actually heard first hand i.e. Trelawney 
to Harry, you will find that there are no long pauses (....) between 
sentences. It is a perfectly constructed paragraph. Therefore, maybe 
you should be asking yourself exactly which parts of the prophecy 
DD 'allowed' Harry to hear. And therefore which parts of the prophecy 
has Snape heard and how does this compare with what Harry has heard.

I agree with you that part of the prophecy may have concerned Snape. 
I do think the bulk of the prophecy concerns Harry, and it is Harry 
that will ultimately have to finish off LV. However, I do like your 
theory on marking Snape as equal. If you consider the following part 
of the prophecy;
'... and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will have 
the power the Dark Lord knows not...'

At both ends it is separated by pauses i.e. IMO we have not heard the 
full sentence. Let us postulate that this actually refers to one of 
LV's followers who will assist in his eventual destruction. DD could 
not allow Harry to hear this piece of information. He is too poor at 
occlumency and there is a risk that LV would find out. This is why 
the prophecy is so fragmented - we haven't heard it all. This also 
suggests that Snape would not have heard this part at first i.e. he 
only heard up to the bit on 'born to parents who have thrice defied 
him'.

So IMO, Harry is the one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord, 
but the prophecy also implicates an accomplice - one Severus Snape.

Brothergib