Harry using Crucio

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 1 18:04:29 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 174133

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Vincent Maston 
<vincent.maston.ml at ...> wrote:
<SNIP>
> Yeah, well, I think McGonagall is calm under pressure, but this 
does not
> prevent her from being angry.
> For a whole year, she had to watch, not beeing able to do a thing 
about
> it, the Carrows torturing children and basically ruining the whole
> school she devoted her life to.
> 
> She finally has the chance to get a little revenge, and I think I'd 
have
> done the same. She did not even cruciated them a little bit, only
> imperiused them. IMO, Imperio is an unforgivable curse only because 
the
> danger a wrong wizard can provoke with it, not, like Crucio or AK,
> because of a pain or death it induces. For all we know, Imperio is 
just
> as painfull as laying in a nice bed.
> 
> The hell with morality. McGonagall is a woman, not a poster girl for
> christian forgiveness.
> 
> If you want a nice little book full of nice people always beeing 
nice to
> each other, I don't think that a series beginning with the murder 
of a
> baby's parents right in front of him is the right choice.
<SNIP>


Alla:

Personally I am not incredibly bothered by Mcgonagall Imperio for 
precisely the reasons you said, I am also not incredibly bothered by 
Harry's Crucio, except I sort of am <g>

Let me explain, I am perfectly satisfied that Harry would not use 
Unforgiveable curses unless circumstances are extreme.

I think she established that point with Harry refusing to use Avada 
in the battle and Lupin of all people scolding him for it.

I thought it was done very well and giving that Harry is prone to 
anger I am not incredibly bothered by his Crucio, had it been, I 
don't know, done in response to more extreme situation, if that makes 
sense?


Like if he used it on Bella, when she Crucio Hermione - oh yes, then 
my response would have been, he had a very good reason to be angry.

This situation just does not really cut it for me.


As I said, I am not holding it much against Harry - I am perfectly 
happy with him refusing to kill, but if she wanted to show that he 
was angry, I needed more violent situation for that.

Because I agree with those that the point was made that 
Unforgiveables are not only illegal but immoral as well.

JMO,

Alla





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