Harry using Crucio
dumbledore11214
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Wed Aug 1 18:04:29 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 174133
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Vincent Maston
<vincent.maston.ml at ...> wrote:
<SNIP>
> Yeah, well, I think McGonagall is calm under pressure, but this
does not
> prevent her from being angry.
> For a whole year, she had to watch, not beeing able to do a thing
about
> it, the Carrows torturing children and basically ruining the whole
> school she devoted her life to.
>
> She finally has the chance to get a little revenge, and I think I'd
have
> done the same. She did not even cruciated them a little bit, only
> imperiused them. IMO, Imperio is an unforgivable curse only because
the
> danger a wrong wizard can provoke with it, not, like Crucio or AK,
> because of a pain or death it induces. For all we know, Imperio is
just
> as painfull as laying in a nice bed.
>
> The hell with morality. McGonagall is a woman, not a poster girl for
> christian forgiveness.
>
> If you want a nice little book full of nice people always beeing
nice to
> each other, I don't think that a series beginning with the murder
of a
> baby's parents right in front of him is the right choice.
<SNIP>
Alla:
Personally I am not incredibly bothered by Mcgonagall Imperio for
precisely the reasons you said, I am also not incredibly bothered by
Harry's Crucio, except I sort of am <g>
Let me explain, I am perfectly satisfied that Harry would not use
Unforgiveable curses unless circumstances are extreme.
I think she established that point with Harry refusing to use Avada
in the battle and Lupin of all people scolding him for it.
I thought it was done very well and giving that Harry is prone to
anger I am not incredibly bothered by his Crucio, had it been, I
don't know, done in response to more extreme situation, if that makes
sense?
Like if he used it on Bella, when she Crucio Hermione - oh yes, then
my response would have been, he had a very good reason to be angry.
This situation just does not really cut it for me.
As I said, I am not holding it much against Harry - I am perfectly
happy with him refusing to kill, but if she wanted to show that he
was angry, I needed more violent situation for that.
Because I agree with those that the point was made that
Unforgiveables are not only illegal but immoral as well.
JMO,
Alla
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