Harry using Crucio -- my two cents

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 174171

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Feng Zengkun <nightmasque at ...>
wrote:
> > bboyminn:
> > I'm sure in later years, Harry had second thoughts about
> > having used unforgivable, just as soldiers in wartime
> > have second thoughts. But in the moment, you have to
> > react spontaneously, without hesitation, if you want to
> > continue living. Let the morals of it work themselves
> > out later. 
> 
> Zengkun:
> 
> Hogwarts episode aside, there is the matter of the
> Imperiuses in the Gringotts bank. But all of that
> aside, I don't think anyone is disputing the
> (possible) necessity of fighting evil with evil; I am
> sure the debate over whether the Unforgiveables were
> called for can go on forever. But that is not the
> point in question: the point is why Rowling completely
> ignores the moral quandary she sets up, by ignoring
> the fall-out of their use by the so-called good guys.
> 

Valky replies:
Call me crazy, but I have come around to wondering if the whole
unforgivables thing at the end has something to do with Draco's wand
and Harry learning from it. Now I don't mean to say the wand itself 
was suggesting crucio and imperio to Harry, exactly, I'm sure Harry's
instincts selected the curses and not the wand, but maybe that Harry's
magical instincts somehow linked to his knowledge of how Draco used
his wand? Draco was excellent at Imperius as shown in HBP, his imperio
on Rosemerta was rather extraordinary for a young wizard, he won her
over quickly and she never faltered from his control in a whole year.
He did this with the Hawthorn wand which would suggest that the
Hawthorn wand itself was extremely capable of channelling a strong
imperio. 

Harry it seemed really understood the wandlore that Ollivander told
him, better in some ways than even Ollivander understood it himself.
Of the few weapons he could use against the DE in Gringotts, for
example an alternative may have been a memory charm and a stunning
spell, Harry chose the one spell his wand was known to have performed
flawlessly the previous year. Moreover, when he had done it there was
a clear connection drawn in the narrative between Harry and the wand
(a warm sensation), this, perhaps, was the on page example of Harry
"learning" from the wand itself. 

I'm not sure how to fill in the gaps between the Hawthorn wand's
familiar spells and Harry choosing them. It could be anything from
being the wands own influence to just being Harry experimenting to
learn more about the hallows while he had the opportunity. Or I could
be wrong altogether. I'm not sure I am wrong though, Harry had never
cast an Imperio before the scene in Gringotts, it's altogether too
coincedental that he had absolutely no problems with a spell he'd
never used before, in my opinion the wand was involved somehow, and,
maybe, Harry understood that.

Valky