Victory for TEWWW EWWW?? Snape the hero

[lupinlore]

No: HPFGUIDX 174214

> leslie41
>
> No, but IMHO they have everything to do with how seriously we are
> supposed to take your opinion on Snape (it seems you have decided
> to stop calling him Snapey-poo, thankfully).  In other words, it
> has to do with how good you are as a judge of character.


Once again how spectacularly, completely, terribly, totally,
supremely out of order!  As we have said, the faults of Snape and
those of Lupin have nothing to do with each other.  Nor do the faults
of any characters in the series, unless direct causal links can be
drawn.  Lucius' sins certainly have something to do with Draco's, but
Dumbledore's nothing to do with Harry's, Hermione's nothing to do
with Ron's, and Lupin's nothing to do with Snape's.  Unless of course
you are bringing up the prank?  I suppose some causal links could be
drawn there, but then again, Sevviekin's personality was well formed
before the mean ole Gryffindors hurted his feelings!


> leslie41
> I admire Severus Snape, but I am not some happy-crappy "How
> could Lily desert him? Oh, he's just so lovable and wonderful"
> sort of Snaper.  As I have said before,  he's hardly likeable.
> And with regard to Lily he gets exactly what he deserves.
>
> As for Remus, I like him an awful lot.

And I reiterate, what does anyone's opinion of Lupin have to do with
one's opinion of Snape?  But, even given what you say here, I do find your complete, unremitting, and completely rock-bound (I-do like that phrase) and obstinant defense of Sevviekins and his abusive behavior completely inconsistent with your professed positions.


> > Lupinlore, who really IS getting to like JKR more with each
> > passing revelation
>
> leslie41
> And what do you think of her "revelation" that though deeply
> flawed, she believes Snape is a hero?  That Lily might have loved
> him?

Hmmm.  Well, that presuposes that authorial intent is important,
after all.  But, JKR said that Lily actually DID love Snape, as a
friend.  She said Lily might have loved him romantically if he had
not been so enamored of the Dark Arts and his Death Eater friends.
But, as has been gone into in another thread, Snape's personality
flaws are deeply entangled with his love of the Dark Arts and his
attraction to the Death Eaters.  A Sevviekins that Lily might have
loved in a romantic way would be a Sevviekins of a very different
personality.


Lupinlore, who has enjoyed the full transcripts of JKR's recent
chat's and interviews, particularly where she admits that Snape had
absolutely no excuse for his abuse of Harry