Harry perfect after Dobby's funeral WAS: Re: Snape's death scene

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 174218

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214"
<dumbledore11214 at ...> wrote:
>
> > va32h:
> <SNIP>
> >> I would definitely agree that in books 1-6 and even the first 
> portion 
> > of DH, Harry is a flawed, human, well-developed character. During 
> > Dobby's burial however,  Harry develops some sort of weird Sherlock 
> > Holmes/Jessica Fletcher/Det. Goren thing  - where he needs one 
> nugget 
> > of information to extrapolate entire (inevitably correct) scenarios.
> <SNIP>
> >> I'm just not sure I believe post-Dobby's death Harry as the natural 
> > result of Harry's development up to that point. 
> 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Maybe that's the point? I mean we agree, right that for six and a half 
> books  Harry is well developed, flawed, imperfect, etc.
> 
> It is not like he  is Indiana Jones during 7 books, no? It is only one 
> third of the book and it is the last book, he does need to get much 
> better and become someone who is able to finish the quest and 
> sacrifice himself.
> 
> What I am trying to say is that it makes sense to me that during last 
> part of last book, Harry is much better at serving puzzles and stuff, 
> because this IS the last book?
> 
> I still do not see him as perfect in general here, IMO.
> 
> Like if we go to Luke from Star Wars, he does do some amasing stuff in 
> the Return of Jedi, no?
> 
> But he had not even finished his training yet and he becomes Jedi 
> because of what he did, yes? Not just what he learned and Harry sort 
> of matures in action, no?
> 
> JMO,
> 
> Alla
>

Valky:

I don't mind adding, I can't see how  puzzle solving could *not* be
the natural result of Harry's intellectual development. Besides biting
off so much strife he can barely chew each book, putting together
clues and theory is the one major activity that he has engaged in.
By mid HBP he's getting pretty good at it too and we see that because
Dumbledore takes his one last chance to test Harry on this skill and
Harry comes off exceptional; he can translate cryptic instructions
from Dumbledore instantly, demonstrated again in DH by his quietly
instant recognition of the snitch secret in DD's will, and with a
little help from Hermione he riddles out the reason for the Gryffindor
sword. In HBP Harry pieces together tidbits from DD regarding the
Horcruxes which leads him to instinctively recognise the ring as an
object indicative of a set. From the first book and onward we get
glimpses of Harry coming to the right and clever conclusion through
piecing together clues:
PS - Hagrid gave away the secret to passing Fluffy
COS - Moaning Myrtle was Riddle's first victim
GOF - The sphinxes riddle

and by HBP it has become fairly obvious that Harry is getting good at
reading between the lines. He needs only to extend this ability that
bit further before he is *very* good at it, so it's not a sudden thing
at all that he finds himself in DH suddenly able to really take
advantage of this skill. he has always had it.

IMHO 
Valky