Harry using Crucio.

[eggplant107]

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"sneeboy2" <sneeboy2 at ...> wrote:

> My beef is with the author, not the
> fictional hero. She has spent a good
> bit of ink establishing that the 
> "unforgivable" curses are just that,
> that only the bad guys use them, 

Well that is certainly untrue, Harry first used an Unforgivable way
back in book 5, and I don't believe JKR meant for her readers to think
of Harry as a bad guy since then. I think the confusion comes from the
name, but who do you think gave those 3 curses their unflattering
name? The, oh so very moral, holier than thou, Ministry of Magic.

> she inserts a scene that indicates that,
> under some circumstances, using an 
> unforgivable is OK, even gallant. 

I would imagine she did that because under some circumstances, using
an unforgivable is OK, even gallant; ESESPECIALY IN A WAR! For the
last several years you've endured horrible pain, both physical and
emotional, you've watched good friends and good people get murdered
and tortured right in front of your eyes, and you've escaped death
yourself by an inch on a dozens of occasions . And now you're supposed
to get all squeamish about inflicting pain on a moral monster? I don't
believe it is realistic for a flesh and blood human being to act like
that; although such behavior is very common in Saturday morning
cartoon heroes. The trouble is Harry is not a cartoon.     

> I don't think the scene is intended to show the
> character's flaws, or to raise a moral debate. 

That was part of it perhaps, but I agree there was much more to it
than that.

> It seems designed solely to elicit a 
> little cheer from an audience that,
> having sat through six books in which
> the good guys are rather painfully good,
> is hungry for a little eye-for-an-eye justice. 

I couldn't have put it better myself. I certainly cheered me up!

> Mrs. Weasley's "bitch" line, which felt
> lifted right from "Aliens."

I thought so too and I loved it, if you're going to steal then steal
from the best. I hope they keep that line in movie 7.

> The scene is very Hollywood

You almost make that sound like a bad thing. There are worse insults
you could say to a writer than "When I read your books it's like there
is a movie playing in my head". 

Eggplant Gellert Grindelwald