Victory for TEWWW EWWW?? Snape the hero

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 174283

> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Dennis Grant" <trog@> wrote:
> 
> > And the whole time, the ungrateful little rule-braking, glory-
hound
> > brat not only wouldn't show him any simple respect, but actually 
kept
> > calling him out as one of the bad guys!
> > 
> > Certainly reason to be a little snippy....
> > 
> > DG
> >
> 
> Prep0strus:
> 
> But not to Neville. Or Hermione.  Or any of the other students he
> treated cruelly because he was that - a cruel person.  And he used 
to
> BE one of the bad guys.  You can't get too mad when people make
> assumptions about you that were once true.  You kind of have to
> realize that it's part of your penance for being evil that you're 
not
> gonna be Mr. Trusted in the future.
<  BIG SNIP>


Alla:

And Harry WAS ready to show him respect, he thought he had a gift of 
keeping class quiet on their first lesson and Snape, dear Snape 
attacked him instead. Attacked eleven year old, who partially because 
of Snape lost the parents AND who partially because of Snape lost his 
chance to grew up in the world he belongs to.

And as Phoenixgod once said, here Snape has a perfect chance to look 
into those green eyes which would remind him so much of Lily, would 
look at him **with love**. Harry, wanting a genuine father figure, 
Harry who fall for Hagrid, because he showed child a little kindness.

I have very little problem believing that if Snape only wanted, he 
would have been Harry's favorite teacher AND father figure too.

Especially now that we know that Snape did not **have to** pretend to 
treat Harry badly to maintain his cover as a spy and we know that it 
was not a pretence either, I cannot, just cannot see Snape's love for 
Lily as completely good, no matter how many good things he did in her 
name. And he surely did good things, many of them.

I cannot imagine somebody truly loving a woman, hating her child that 
much.


Prep0strus:
<SNIP>
 Even if Harry is everything you say
> he is, and you're certainly welcome to that opinion... Snape should
> pick on someone his own size.

Alla:

Part of the reason why I was not that appalled at Dumbledore's 
manipulating Snape in the memories, is because I just realised -  it 
worked for me as a carmic justice which I wanted so in the backwards 
way.

Yeah, he behaved as a jerk, Dumbledore I mean IMO, but I cheered him 
up soooo much.

I could not let the thought that this is for every nasty remark "You 
are just like your father" and many others Harry and Neville had to 
endure.

So, yeah, that was satisfying for me.

JMO,

Alla.