Deathly Hallows Reaction - Could do Better, Sorry/ Slytherins portrayal

[liliput99ar]

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> Alla:
>
> Let me put it this way. I am not and had NEVER been the fan of what
> Slytherin house stands for. I argued for years on this list that in
> JKR' story Slytherin house stands for evil, for very real evil and
> when many good people take a stand against what Slytherin stands
for,
> they are not prejudicing Slytherins, but fight against very real,
> very chilling evil.
>
> Am I pleased to be right? Sure I do, but at the same time while
> within the story I have no  major problems with Slytherin being a
> house of evil ideology, I do have some disappointments, minor ones
to be sure.

> I mean, sure there are bad kids  in RL at eleven, very bad, kids
who commit very real crimes, etc. But that many? I mean, really ***
> that** many?
> <SNIP>
>>
> All hope is gone for them? For all of them? At eleven years of age?




Nora A. now:

Excuse me Alla, but I disagree. I do not think that Slytherin House
is the House of Evil. I do not see that in the books as such definite
and absolute truth.
The house existed from the very beginning of Hogwarts, and it is
described that differences between the founders started later on,
with the development of the pureblood supremacy ideology, etc.
But, in my opinion, it does not means that every person sorted for
the house is evil or will develop in the equivalent of a DE of their
corresponding time.
It has been one Slytherin Headmaster -Phineas Nigellus- and it does
not appear to have been a tragedy for the rest of houses. Slughorn is
a Slytherin, and no Dark at all.
I think that there is all sort of people sorted at Slytherin, and
they receive the same education than the rest of the students. The
rest, is coming from home. And even in LV time, not everyone was a DE
(even if they shared the ideology).

In the real world, there are people that share horrible ideologies,
but they do not practice them, and for the rest of the society it is
necessary to live with this fact. There are societies, brotherhoods,
etc, even political parties, that are legal, and that support
ideologies similar to that of pureblood supremacy.
I see Slytherin House as something like this, for one part. And for
the other, surely there were many Slughorns, and many businessmen (or
the equivalent in WW), and WW lawyers, and just snob people.

So I think that Slytherin House post-LV defeat, can be cleaned  up of
Dark magic and bad ideologies practitioners, as long as the WW is
judging and convicting Dark criminals and DE.



Alla:

> I mean do not get me wrong, all of this does not take me from major
> enjoyment of the story. My heart had always been with Harry and his
> friends and I enjoyed their triumphs.
>
> But I am scratching my head over it, not as much as people who were
> hoping for full blown redemption of Slytherin house, since I always
> despised those Slytherins we had been shown for the most part, but
it  makes me wonder why JKR made the choice she did.
>
> I mean she showed us **some** good Slytherins of the sort, but
isn't that more in line with DD remark of "we sort too early"? Since
they turn out to have courage that their house not supposed to?


Nora A.:
Maybe he was thinking about the bad companies that Snape had in
Slytherin. If he had been sorted in other house, maybe the tale would
have been different. If all the students were together during, say
one year, and then sorted, maybe they could have asked the Hat for
something different than what they could have preferred the year
before.
We can imagine that in some future, this idea of Dumbledore's will be
taken by the school, and the Sorting ceremony will be changed from a
thousand years tradition.
I hope I made myself clear, and made my point accurately enough (as
you can see English is not my mother language)

Nora A. (as I have seen there is another Nora)