Danger in designating an "Other" / Bad magic

[angellima at xtra.co.nz]

No: HPFGUIDX 174626

Carol:

I don't think we disagree, actually, although it's possible that you
didn't understand my point. (It's hard to disagree with the definition
of an established literary term like "third-person limited omniscient
narrator" and you seem to acknowledge that the narrator is a creation
of the author.) You snipped the part of the post which shows how
Harry's perception starts out as inaccurate and becomes accurate at
the end. I wasn't talking about the reader at all, just the difference
between narrator and author--one of several forms of misdirection that
JKR uses, detectable by a sophisticated reader.
<snip>Carol, who thinks that arguing against the definition of a literary
term is like arguing against the definition of a refrigerator: it is
what it is


Angel:

You're right. Arguing against a definition is futile and rather stupid <g> though I doodle on  the line of stupidity , defying that definition was not my intention <g>.

I was actually arguing against the author's voice being limited because of the limits imposed by the third person narrative. 

Any of the examples you have listed, will do nicely to demonstrate so.

Carol:
All I'm saying is simply that Harry's perception of events as
presented by the narrator is not and never has been the same as the
author's view. By the end of the book, however, he has most of the
answers he's been seeking (note his insistence on learning the truth
about Dumbledore) as well as answers he wasn't seeking: He thought he
wanted revenge on Snape and instead he nderstandins and forgives him.

Angel:
Oh!  Maybe I should retrack and read the entire thread on this, what I understood of "voice" "view" was not what the author was seeing but what the author was saying.  If it is indeed what she sees then I would have to wholeheartedly agree, of course!  She is afterall the puppeteer and Harry, the puppet.  If it is the latter, then my original position stands.

An author's voice is unlimited despite the limitations of his/her narrator.