[HPforGrownups] Wands (Was: Inconsistencies)

Lee Kaiwen leekaiwen at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 8 10:55:19 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 174798

jlnbtr blessed us with this gem On 04/08/2007 07:22:

Katie:
> If disarming someone was enough to gain control of their wand...

Juli:
> I think wand ownership only changes in a real duel. 

No, Juli, I think Katie's on the right track. How many times in seven 
books have we seen Expelliarmus used for real, and there was never any 
hint of a change of ownership.

In CoS, Harry disarms both Malfoy and Lockhart, yet never claims their 
wands.

In PA Sirius disarms Ron and Hermione, then hands their wands back. A 
couple of pages later Lupin disarms Harry and Hermione (who must be 
getting tired of it by now), followed shortly thereafter by the Trio all 
simultaneously flattening Snape with yet another Expelliarmus (who gets 
Snape's wand?). Then Harry disarms Pettigrew of Lupin's wand (does Harry 
get Lupin's wand?).

In a flashback in OotP, we see James disarming Snape. During the 
climatic battle Neville simultaneously disarms a DE and Harry, who both 
retrieve their own wands.

And, of course, let's not forget the Biggie - Harry used successfully 
used Expelliarmus against Voldemort and won. Clearly, this whole change 
of ownership stuff didn't exist yet, since I think we can all agree 
Harry winning Voldy's wand at that point in the story would've been Big.

No, I'm afraid we're looking at another inconsistency, JKR tossing in 
another ill-conceived plot device that simply cannot be reconciled with 
previous canon.

Lee Kaiwen, Taiwan




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