Aberforth and Albus too.

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 174951

Alla:
<SNIP of the whole post :))
> > Aberforth rocks :)
> > 
> > Alla
> >
> 
> Hickengruendler:
> 
> Indeed he does. And he had one of the best lines of the entire 
> book: "With brains like that, you could be a Death Eater."

Alla:

YES. Totally.

Hickendrueller:
<SNIP>
> I still think that not him but Harry was the voice of reason in 
this 
> chapter, when he told Aberforth that sometimes you have to work for 
> the greater good.

Alla:

Not for me no, for me Harry was the voice of the hero, who decided to 
follow Dumbledore no matter what, despite being manipulated by 
Dumbledore.

I mean voice of reason in a sense that Voldemort should be defeated, 
sure. Not in a sense that seventeen year old who was manipulated from 
birth and probably into killing should follow a dead leader like 
that. IMO obviously.

I was like - you GO Aberforth :).

And do not get me wrong, I did like Dumbledore after book 7. I do not 
think he was evil or anything like that. I feel for him.

But the extent of his manipulations while certainly did not bother me 
in regard to Snape ( NOT because I did not see Dumbledore behaving  
as jerk to Snape, I did, I just thought it was something that Snape 
more than deserved) that certainly bothered me in regards to Harry. 
Did he really raise Harry to die? If he did, I find it despicable. I 
mean, I have no doubt that after GoF he guessed that Harry would not 
die, but would be nice to know when exactly he learned that Harry is 
a horcrux.

It did not stop me from enjoying the book or enjoying Dumbledore's 
character, but that was because I totally bought his remorse and plea 
for forgiveness from Harry. And because I do believe that he grew to 
love Harry, but did he grew to love the boy he indeed raised as pig 
for slaughter? I wonder.

Great Albus Dumbledore? Not for me. I know you did not say he is 
great. I am just bringing this adjective to say that he is not for me.

So, if I were to compare two brothers in goodness' department, well 
Aberforth to me wins hands down.

Hickengruendler:

> The only think I wondered about Aberforth is, that for a man, who 
> thought all was lost, he surely helped a lot. Not only saving the 
> Trio, but also helping the DA and getting into contact with Percy.

Alla:

That is why I thought that he was not thinking everything was truly 
lost :)

He was probably testing Harry in his own way too, although I think he 
was totally sincere when he told Harry all that.


> Ceridwen:
> I thought Aberforth would be more in tune with Albus, working 
> together behind the scenes to further the mission of the Order.  I 
> thought the public falling-out had something to do with the goat 
> issue, and was a ruse to fool the questionable characters who haunt 
> the Hog's Head; ditto Albus's comments about Aberforth's reading 
and 
> writing abilities.
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Alla:

Oh oh oh. Me too. For all the reasons I snipped I agree that they 
were pretty close - obviously not super close, but close enough to 
fight for the cause and at least some affection between each other.




Ceridwen:
<SNIP> <SNIP> 
>Aberfort seemed to 
> understand that carrying the grudge to extremes would not bring 
> Ariana back.

Alla:

Did you see grudge? I only saw pain and spot on assessment of Albus. 
IMO.


Alla