Fly on the wall commentator
Lisa
sassymomofthree at yahoo.com
Thu Aug 9 23:49:14 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 174973
> > > "colebiancardi" wrote:
> OotP US hardcover edition p 843
>
> DD speaking
> "He did not know that you have 'power the Dark Lord knows not' --"
> "But I don't!" said Harry in a strangled voice. "I haven't any
> powers he hasn't got, I couldn't fight the way he did tonight, I
can't
> possess people or -- or kill them --"
>
> earlier in the book:
>
> p 810
>
> Bellatrix:
> "Never used an Unforgivable Curse before, have you, boy?" she
yelled.
> She had abandoned her baby voice now. "You need to mean them,
> Potter! You need to really want to cause pain - to enjoy it -
> righteous anger won't hurt me for long"
>
>
> So, based on OotP, JKR's writings WERE pointing, imho, to the fact
> that Harry would never, ever cast an Unforgivable Curse because *he
> didn't have it in him* - he would *never* want to cause pain and
enjoy
> the pain on those that he inflicted it upon.
Lisa:
Again, I still don't see where it's stated in canon that Harry would
never be able to cause pain and enjoy it - to the contrary, Harry has
always been clear that he despised Voldemort, and my interpretation
is that he was always prepared to kill him if he had to. The passage
you quoted simply tells me that Harry underestimates his own power,
and specifically, Dumbledore meant the power of love, not the power
to cast an unforgiveable curse, anyway.
>
colebiancardi:
> Of course, DH's changed all that. Obviously, Harry enjoys giving
pain
> - something that is distressing.
Lisa:
Oh, I think there's a difference between enjoying doing something
like, and feeling satisfaction. Bella enjoyed it and did it "for
fun," so to speak (witness the Lestranges); Harry was pushed to the
brink in the middle of a war, and felt satisfaction when he did so.
Would he have ever done it for fun? Well, there's no canon to tell
us he wouldn't, but it's my interpretation that he wouldn't. Also,
Bella told Harry that righteous anger wouldn't hurt her for long --
Harry didn't attempt to do any Unforgiveables "for long," anyway,
so "righteous anger" served his purpose in the end after all.
colebiancardi:
>
> But that is what those of us who are debating this - the
> Unforgivable's - are bringing up - CANON statements in the books.
Not
> a figment of our imaginations or that we are reading another work of
> fiction under the guise of the Harry Potter books
Lisa:
Actually, I think we're all debating our interpretations of canon,
LOL!
Lisa
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