Harry, Voldemort & the Horcrux at Godric's Hollow

[esmith222002]

No: HPFGUIDX 175005

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Brothergib wrote:
> > <snip> Thinking this through again LV has always possessed the
> object destined to become the horcrux before commiting the murder.
> Therefore it seems unlikely that he would split his soul on the
> offchance that he might acquire the object at a later date. 
Therefore,
> I do believe that LV intended to make a horcrux with Harry's death,
> but that the sword was not necessarily the intended horcrux. I
> certainly do not believe that LV believed that he could easily kill 
DD
> and claim the sword;
> > 
> >" For a second, Harry was on the verge of shouting a pointless
> warning: he was sure that Voldemort's hand had twitched towards his
> pocket and his wand."
> > `Lord Voldemort's Request, P417 HBP, UK edition
> > 
> > When push comes to shove, LV does not have the bottle to take on 
DD. 
> > 
> > Perhaps LV intended to make his wand a horcrux, the wand that had 
> defeated his greatest threat – that would have been significant to  
LV. 
> > 
> > While I agree that there is no direct canon evidence to state 
that LV 
> > wanted to create a horcrux with Harry's death, but I do think 
that 
> > DD's comments represent very strong circumstantial evidence. As 
JKR 
> > herself says `The man was brilliant'!
> > 
> > Brothergib
> >
> Carol responds:
> I guess we're at a stalemate, then, as we're certainly shown no 
object
> that LV took to Godric's Hollow with him. As for that wand movement,
> I've always read it as LV casting a curse on the DADA position. DD
> notes that from that time forward, he's never been able to keep a 
DADA
> teacher for more than a year.

Brothergib again:
Lets hope someone asks JKR at some point! As for LV's movement 
towards his wand, I always felt that was an instinctive wish to 
attack his most formidable adversary, borne out of frustration and 
anger at DD's dismissal of LV's request. IMO, the DADA curse came 
later - maybe as he was leaving!
> 
> Carol, who used to think that Tom had not yet made a Horcrux when he
> talked to Slughorn but now thinks that he had indeed made the diary,
> which could "carry on Salazar Slytherin's noble work" without being
> recognized as a Horcrux
>
Brothergib again:
The diary may have been mada first without it being a Horcrux. Canon 
doesn't let us know which event occurred first i.e. the COS events or 
the chat with Slughorn. We only know that they both occurred within a 
two year period during which Riddle was a prefect. I still think the 
ring was probably first.