In Defense of Molly Weasley (Long)

[Lisa]

No: HPFGUIDX 175049

guzuguzu:
>
> I'm going to make one more attempt to explain argument: My opinion 
is
> that the Molly-Bella duel scene was not well-written as it did not
> ring true in the context of the books, and was written like a show
> down in an action movie.
> 

Lisa:

::::breaking my self-imposed silence on this subject:::::

Yes, we "get" what you're saying.  You've said it often, and I don't 
consider anyone here dim.  However, the majority here seem not to 
agree with you.  You can continue to make your point over and over if 
you choose, but those who disagree aren't going to be persuaded, if 
that's your goal.  I see the scene very differently than you, as do 
many others.  

guzuguzu:
> 
> I see that my big mistake in my original argument was using the word
> "housewife." Being a former full-time housewife, I didn't realize it
> was a loaded word though it apparently it is on this group. However,
> if you replace that word with "heart surgeon" I still stand by my
> exact statement: I would not assume that a heart surgeon has the 
same fighting skills and experience as a professional soldier. They 
very
> well might, but I would not logically assume it to be true.  

Lisa:

I think if you'd've chosen the word "banker," "heart 
surgeon," "teacher," what have you, you'd've gotten the same 
reaction -- as has already been pointed out with the examples of Bill 
(the banker), Arthur (a ministry employee), etc.

guzuguzu:
> 
> Lily was a mother who died protecting her child from DEs. The 
Albanian
> peasant woman was a mother who died protecting her children from 
DEs.
> Tonks was a mother who died protecting her child from DEs (in 
theory--
> he wasn't there). There is nothing wrong with that. I am still at a
> loss to understand why it is offensive to even discuss the 
possibility and relative probability that Molly might have been in 
the above group instead of the surviving group.

Lisa:

Well, certainly Molly "could" have died.  Harry "could" have died, 
Ron "could" have died, Bill "could" have died, Kingsley "could" have 
died, Arthur "could" have died.  But they didn't, either.  Do you 
have an explanation for that?  Kingsley was an auror (defined as a 
Dark Wizard hunter), but so was Mad-Eye, and HE died, so being 
a "trained soldier" doesn't wash as an explanation.

guzuguzu:

 However, I apologize for ever questioning Molly's awesomeness out 
loud. Too bad for me, as I mentioned in another post, she is one of 
my favorite characters in the series and I enjoyed discussing her. 
> 
> I believe this might be my last post on the subject, as I am 
beginning
> to feel like I not only have a different set of books than most 
people
> here, but I am also from a different planet. 

Lisa:

Well, I think our personal views color how we read the books, so 
your "different set of books" exists because of the way in which you 
read them -- your own personal beliefs and prejudices, such as they 
are.  And really, I think my point about being purposely snide was 
just proved in your above "apology."

guzuguzu:

Such is life-- we all bring our own experiences to the table when we 
read. However, we are all fans who care enough about the books to 
post our thoughts. 
> 
> guzu, who, if a psycho killer busted down her front door, would grab
> her kid, lock herself in the bedroom and call the police.


Lisa, who would do the same, but in the meantime would pull out a gun 
if she had one and blow the S.O.B. away the second he was able to 
burst through the flimsy bedroom door lock and NOT presume that 
because I wasn't a trained soldier I couldn't do it.