good and bad slytherins/Disappointment and Responsibility

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 175140

> 
> Carol: 

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> > 
> > Just as Severus appears to have been told by his witch mother 
that
> > Slytherin (surely her old House) is a House for "brains, not 
brawn"
> > (as Severus says on the next page), James has been told by his
> > gryffindor father that Gryffindor is the House for "the brave at 
heart."
> 
> Prep0strus:
> 
> And, I maintain, though there is no canon to quote, that James (and
> Sirius, and possibly Snape - it doesn't seem like he was as clued 
into
> the WW as them, though more than Lily) also would know of the 
politics
> of the world.  I find it very difficult to swallow that they would 
go
> to school not knowing what Slytherins were doing in the adult 
world. 
> What beliefs they were espousing.  The students in Harry's time 
knew
> what had happened 11 years before.  they knew Harry. They  knew
> Voldemorte.  And they knew the names of the Death Eaters - and that
> they were Slytherins.  They did not go into that choice blind, and
> thinking only of their friends.  These kids have knowledge of the 
world.
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Alla:

Loved your post, Prep0strus :). Loved. Now here is the funny thing I 
just thought of. I will be the first one to credit kids with the 
knowledge of the world. I totally think that many kids at that age 
DO know where they stand hence Hat's confident choice.

Just look at Ron, who at the age of twelve is perfectly aware of 
word **mudblood* and that is the worst insult one can think of.

I totally think that James while learning about it from his parents, 
able to think for himself as well hence I would never call you this 
to Lily.

Sirius though makes a choice contrary to his family's views, for 
which I admire him a lot, but where do you think he can learn that?

Since I am not buying Carol's assertion that Sirius makes his choice 
because James's cooler than Severus Snape, or at least not 
completely.

Frankly, I think that this is again goes back to our choices 
**show** who we are.

I think Sirius' choice showed what kind of person he is ( ALL 
personal flaws and all that, but willing to stand up against the 
dark), but was it indeed predetermined?

Alla.