good and bad slytherins/Disappointment and Responsibility
lanval1015
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Sun Aug 12 14:57:01 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 175167
> > >
> > > "Sirius did not smile. 'My whole family have been in
Slytherin,'
> > he said.
> > >
> > > "'Blimey,' said James. 'And I thought you seemed all right!'"
> > >
> > > "Sirius grinned. 'Maybe I'll break the tradition. Where are you
> > > heading, f you've got the choice?'
> > >
> > > "James held up an invisible sword. 'Gryffindor, where dwell
the
> > brave
> > > at heart. Like my dad"" (DH Am. ed. 671).
> >
> >
> >
> > Lanval:
> > And that's when Snape sneers at James, and insults his choice of
> > house. Let's not omit that, if we're talking canon.
>
>
> lizzyben:
>
> Just wanted to add one thing. When James said "just like my Dad"
and
> waves an invisible sword, I'm convinced that Snape interpreted
that as
> "I want to be a bully, just like my Dad." Hence his "small,
> disparaging noise" and later comment about "brawn." James sees his
> father as someone to emulate, but Snape sees his as an abusive
bully.
> So while James sees his desire to be like his father as something
> noble, it provokes a negative reaction from Snape. Just another
> example of the (many) misconceptions & misunderstandings from that
scene.
>
Lanval:
Ah, so Snape must, once again, be excused? He can't help insulting
James'choice, because James innocently waving an imaginary sword and
mentioning his dad immediately sends Severus into inner tremblings?
In other words, every time another kid mentions his/her dad, Snape
could be excused for getting snippy?
You have every right to interpret the scene that way, but I find it
a real stretch. Frankly, I don't see any misconceptions and
misunderstandings in the scene. Both James and Snape are quite clear
and straightforward on what they want, expect, and prefer.
Tobias, an abusive bully? Maybe. We see him shouting at his wife
once, but DH makes it quite clear that the Snapes were arguing with
each other. I don't think there's enough canon to make Mrs Snape the
perpetual victim here, and there certainly is none that Severus was
in any way abused by his father (another fandom myth down the
drain...).
I would go as far and suggest that Harry's early childhood was in
fact far worse than Snape's. Not only was all the abuse in the
Dursley household heaped upon Harry, canonically, by three family
members, but he also lacked what young Severus had: a mother who
probably did love him, the prospect of a brighter future, and, at
least for a few years, a real friend.
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