Snape and caring (WAS :Re: Dumbledore lied to Harry... AGES ago.)
dumbledore11214
dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sat Aug 18 22:58:12 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 175764
> zgirnius:
> I certainly see where your reading is coming from. The thing is,
so
> far as we know for *sure*, Snape had felt affection/ caring for
> precisely one human being, ever: Lily. Yet he has never said so to
a
> living soul. Not to her, not to Dumbledore. (OK, he intimated to
> Voldemort he 'desired' her, not the same thing, not the whole
truth,
> and he had to explain his odd request for the life of a Muggleborn
in
> some way). Further, once Dumbledore knows (without being
explicitly
> told) Snape swears him to secrecy as soon as he is in a position
to
> impose any conditions.
Alla:
But he did tell Lily that he cared for her, no? As a friend, yes,
but still if we are talking affection, I thought he made it
abundantly clear to her, IMO of course.
Zgirnius:
So the fact that he never said he felt caring
> or affection for Harry, or for Dumbledore (to name another person
I
> think got past Snape's guard eventually), does not prove to me
that
> he did not. His instinct is to hide 'the best of him', not 'wear
his
> heart on his sleeve', etc.
Alla:
Well, there is JKR saying that he did not care for Harry till very
end and how unfair it is, but I understand if you want to look at
the text only. I guess to me just as to LL, Snape answer means
basically **how dare you DD suggest that I may care for him, while I
care only for his mother and here is my patronus as proof of it**.
Obviously only my interpretation.
> zgirnius:
> Snape does not deny caring for Harry. Nor does he confirm it. He
> says, "For *him*?", and casts his Patronus. Were Snape to have
> answered Dumbledore in the affirmative, it would have been the
only
> time in his life that he made such an admission as far as we know,
so
> its absence does not convince me.
<SNIP>
Alla:
To me what he did is rather strong denial and much more impressive
had he simply said no. IMO lets JKR kill two birds with one stone -
show that Snape still loves Lily and does not give a fig about her
son, even if he wanted him to live as extension of her.
Which I grant you was certainly more than I ever expected of Snape.
JMO.
Alla
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