Snape's Request gave Harry a second chance? (Was: Snape/Dumbledore thingummy)

[Beatrice23]

No: HPFGUIDX 175826

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Ceridwen" <ceridwennight at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Mim:
> > 
> > But to be born to parents who had thrice defied the Dark Lord he 
> > couldn't have been very old. I think that it's vague as 
prophecies 
> > go but it's obvious that it refers to a small child.
> 
> Ceridwen:
> Voldemort had been around as a Dark Lord for a while before Harry 
was 
> born.  He'd had eleven years of actively engaging the WW, according 
> to PS/SS.  He'd had followers before then, according to the 
Pensieve 
> scene where he applies for the DADA position.  The application for 
> the position came ten years after his first application to 
> Dumbledore's predecessor, Armando Dippet, who only refused him the 
> post due to his youth and inexperience.  He had applied shortly 
after 
> leaving Hogwarts.  That would put the second attempt somewhere in 
the 
> 1950s.  Dumbledore refusing him the position could be seen as a 
> defiance of LV's wishes.
> 
> There is no reason to suspect that, at least in the eleven years 
> before the Potters' deaths, others had not thrice defied him.  The 
> One could have been eleven, or twenty-six, or a newborn, from the 
way 
> I took this information.  Someone could have defied LV thrice by 
> 1981, and borne a child in July in the 1950s.  To me, it could have 
> been any age between twenty-six and zero, given a vague 1956-ish 
> reapplication for the DADA position.  Others may have had a 
different 
> impression.

Beatrice:  Not to muddy the waters any more but, Doesn't the prophecy 
state that the one with the power to vanquish the dark 
lord "approaches" born as the seventh month dies, which does seem to 
indicate an impending birth rather than someone who is already born.
> 
> Ceridwen.
>