Dumbledore Disgusted (was: Snape's Request gave Harry a second chance?)

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No: HPFGUIDX 175864

JudySerenity:
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> So, my interpretation of the phrase, "mercy for the mother, in 
> exchange for the son" is that since Snape has ALREADY given 
Voldemort 
> the prophecy (therefore telling him of the boy who may be able to 
> defeat him), Snape could ask for Lily's life as his reward.  
> 
> So, I read the exchange between Snape and Dumbledore as:
> 
> Dumbledore says, "Snape, if you love Lily so much, couldn't you 
> remind Voldemort that you did him a great service by informing him 
of 
> the risk that Harry poses, and ask him to let Harry's mother live 
as 
> your reward?"
> 
> Snape says, "Yep, that's exactly what I asked His Voldieness."
> 
> Dumbledore responds, "That's disgusting."
> 
> To me, there's a world of difference between these two readings. 
In 
> the first reading, Snape will LET Voldemort kill Harry, if he gets 
> what he wants. In the second reading, Snape CAN'T do anything to 
stop 
> Voldemort from trying to kill Harry, all he can do is try to 
prevent 
> the additional, senseless murder of Harry's mother. In the first 
> reading, Dumbledore's disgust seems reasonable to me; in the 
second 
> reading it doesn't.  
> 
> And,as I've said, I think reading this exchange as Snape LETTING 
> Voldemort kill Harry doesn't fit, because Snape can't stop 
Voldemort 
> from trying to kill Harry. Therefore, I don't think Dumbledore's 
> disgust is justified.
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Alla:

Okay, I can see your reading, I have to think about it and maybe I 
will even accept it as more fitting. The thing is I totally think 
Dumbledore's disgust is justified in that instance as well.

What do you mean Snape cannot do anything to save Harry? he can do 
the same thing as he did for Lily. Not from Voldemort of course, 
from Dumbledore, no?

He is supposedly feeling that great remorse from selling prophecy 
couple to Voldemort and goes to Dumbledore for protection, etc.


The thing is , he does not **ask** Dumbledore to save her innocent 
baby, he only has Lily on his mind.

In that instance Dumbledore is disgusted that Snape would not spare 
a thought of remorse that baby would be killed and Snape would not 
even ask for his protection, does he not?

Whether Dumbledore would protect all Potters or not regardless of 
Snape ask for that to me is irrelevant ( I totally think he would by 
the way - IMO), Dumbledore is disgusted by what on Snape's mind IMO 
and I think he has every reason to be in the reading you suggest as 
well.

Mim said it is Okay with her, but it is totally NOT Okay with me, I 
find the thing that Snape would not even spare a thought that James 
and Harry will be dead because of him to be quite despicable.

I know we would not have a story if that happened, but I wonder 
sometimes what If Voldemort indeed incapacitated Lily and killed 
Harry and James only, did Snape seriously thought Lily would become 
his?

I think if Lily learned of what Snape did, she would not hesitate to 
kill him herself.


> 
> -- JudySerenity, whose husband suggested that when Dumbledore said 
to 
> Snape, "You disgust me," Dumbledore was actually refering to 
Snape's 
> *hair*.

Alla:

LOLOLOL

> Mim:
> 
> Dumbledore didn't know exactly how the Prophecy would work but he 
> wanted Voldemort to act and go after that baby who had powers that 
> he didn't know. Otherwise he could have stopped Snape. 
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Alla:

Can we have some canon for Dumbledore **could have** stopped Snape?