Snape spy timeline in VW1
Zara
zgirnius at yahoo.com
Mon Aug 20 19:31:52 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 175900
zgirnius:
I was a proponent of the idea that Snape spied for Dumbledore for a
considerable amount of time, in the neighborhood of a full year, in
VW1. For a smaple discussion, see e. g.:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/166136
In recent discussions of Snape and "The Prince's Tale" I noted a
tidbit of canon which proves to me that I was right.
First, let us recall that in Fall of the year OotP is set, Snape
tells Umbridge he has been teaching for 14 years. That suggests he
started teaching on Sept. 1 of the year the Potters died. Two monhts
before 10/31, and a month after Harry's first birthday. There is
absolutely no canon to support that he started mid-term. The previous
Potions teacher did not die - he was alive, well, and teaching again
in HBP. So it seems he retired, and that one would do in an orderly
fashion, giving the school notice so a replacement could be hired.
Now, I turn to my tidbit...(emphasis mine).
> DH, "The Prince's Tale":
> he stood on a hilltop, forlorn and cold in the darkness, the wind
whistling through the branches of a few *leafless* trees.
zgirnius:
One can argue that it can be cold and windy any time of year in the
British Isles, (as any number of discussions of the timing of the
prophecy demonstrate) but trees there do follow the seasons in the
usual manner. This scene cannot be just days before the Potters died,
because why then would Snape choose to meet DD in this nasty place
instead of a cozy office at the school where they both work? And why
would he fear DD might kill him, before he has said a word?
So it took place in the Fall or Winter of the previous year, months
before Harry's first birthday in mid-summer.
Additional evidence is available in the form of Lily's letter to
Sirius. In it she makes clear that her family is in hiding. But I do
not believe she wrote it within a week of her death on Halloween. In
it, she thanks Sirius for Harry's birthday present, an item she
received a full three months previously. The letter also describes
the party they had. I don't think she would have waited close to
three months to write that letter.
So I conclude that they went into hiding after Snape came to
Dumbledore. The figure of a year which I always favored, would be
based on Sirius's angry accusation of Peter in PoA. During this time
DD grew to suspect a spy in the Order, as someone was reporting on
the Potters' movements, and Dumbledore got to see just how seriously
Snape meant that "Anything".
A far better reason for him to eventually decide he could hire Snape
despite his DE past than just that Snape showed up one day and said
he was sorry.
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