[HPforGrownups] Re: Kings Cross..... The end???
Christine Maupin
keywestdaze at yahoo.com
Tue Aug 21 03:02:43 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 175952
super_tattoo_queen:
> I thought that AK curse was supposed to kill outright??
>I get why Harry survived the 1st time, but the second?? I thought that the
> destruction of the horcrux would have ultimately destroyed him also??
grindieloe:
> I think that Harry survived when the horcrux was destroyed
>because of the Elder Wand. Harry was the true master of the Elder Wand,
>and thus it would not work properly against him - just as he states
>in the final battle scenes in the Great Hall with Riddle.
Niru:
>I don't think the Elder Wand played a part in the Forest scene.
>Harry did not attempt to defend himself as he DID do in the final
>battle in the great hall. I think the wand relationships are
>complicated in this instance.
[big snip re: the Elder Wand during Harry's last confrontation with Voldemort]
I also don't see that the Elder Wand had anything to do with Harry surviving Voldemort's AK curse in the forest. He survived, once again, because of his mother's blood protection. See Chapter 35, King's Cross, as quoted below:
"But if Voldemort used the Killing Curse," Harry started again, "and nobody died for me this time -- how can I be alive?"
"I think you know," said Dumbledore. "Think back. Remember what he did, in his ignorance, in his greed and his cruelty."
...
"He took my blood," said Harry.
"Precisely!" said Dumbledore. "He took your blood and rebuilt his living body with it! Your blood in his veins, Harry, Lily's protection inside of both of you! He tethered you to life while he lives!"
(p. 708 - 709 US)
Simply put, Voldemort's Killing Curse didn't kill Harry because his mother's blood, now also in Voldemort, anchored him to life. (Remember, Dumbledore insisted to Snape that Voldemort must be the one to kill Harry -- something Snape knew when he fled Hogwarts in HBP, when he told the Death Eaters to leave Harry for the Dark Lord. Apparently, the same protection wouldn't have worked if someone else had killed Harry. It makes me think that perhaps Snape insisted to Voldemort that he kill Harry himself; thus Voldemort's speech in Chapter 1 of DH.)
Of course, in the King's Cross chapter of DH, Dumbledore is referring to events in Chapter 32 of Goblet of Fire, when Voldemort used his father's bone, his servant's (Wormtail's) flesh, and his enemy (Harry's) blood to regain his body. (See p. 642)
>From chapter 33 of GOF (Voldemort speaking):
"...His mother died in the attempt to save him -- and unwittingly provided him with a protection I admit I had not foreseen...His mother left upon him the traces of her sacrifice..." (p. 652)
"I knew that to achieve this -- it is an old piece of Dark Magic, the potion that revived me tonight -- I would need three powerful ingredients...I knew the one I must use, if I was rise again, more powerful than I had been when I had fallen. I wanted Harry Potter's blood. I wanted the blood of the one who had stripped me of power thirteen years ago . . . for the lingering protection his mother once gave him would then reside in my veins too . . . " (p. 657)
Then, in Chapter 36, Harry recounts the events for Dumbledore:
When Harry told of Wormtail piercing his arm with the dagger however, Sirius let out a vehement exclamation and Dumbledore stood up so quickly that Harry started. Dumbledore walked around the desk and told Harry to stretch out his arm. Harry showed them both the place where his roes were torn and the cut beneath him.
"He said my blood would make him stronger than if he'd used someone else's," Harry told Dumbledore. "He said the protection my -- my mother left in me -- he'd have it too. And he was right -- he could touch me without hurting himself, he touched my face."
For a fleeting instant, Harry thought he saw a gleam of something like triumph in Dumbledore's eyes...
(p. 695 - 696)
Christy
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