The creature under the bench (again) (was: Of Sorting and Snape)

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 175995

Carol:
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 I'm trying to understand how you can
> persist in interpreting the creature under the chair as a soul bit 
or
> a part of Harry with the evidence from these two quotations, in
> particular, in front of you:
> 
> "'So the part of his soul that was in me . . . has it gone?'
> 
> "'Oh, yes,' said Dumbledore. 'Yes, he destroyed it" (708).
> 
> Ergo, the soul bit that was in Harry has been destroyed exactly as 
the
> soul bits in the deliberately destroyed Horcruxes have been. The 
thing
> under the chair is something else.
> 
> And
> 
> "'Try for some remorse, Riddle. . . . It's your one last chance. 
I've
> seen what you'll become without it" (741).
> 
> That quotation shows what the thing under the chair represents: LV's
> future, the state of his mangled soul if he doesn't show remorse.
> 
> That's all I'm asking you to answer, okay? Just look at those
> quotations and show me how they can be interpreted in any other way
> than I've done here.
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Alla:

For the record, I completely agree with your interpretation, Carol. I 
think that the creature represents the future state of Voldemort's 
soul.

But I absolutely see how first quote especially can be interpreted 
differently.

The part of his soul that was in me has it gone. Well, we do not know 
where it is gone, do we?

So, it can totally be gone in my opinion in that limbo where Harry 
and Dumbledore are and be under that chair whatever it represents to 
await where it will move.

While Harry IF decides to not return can take a train and go **on**, 
this creature can spend an eternity under the chair, no?

And DD's answer can be IMO interpreted in the same vain - after all 
Voldemort destroyed it by killing curse, did he not?

Eh, he fired Avada at Lily and James as well and here they are in the 
afterlife coming back to see Harry.

I see no evidence that destroyed means gone without a trace, you know?

So, that is how I see it can be interpreted and that is why by no 
means I think your interpretation ( and mine) is the only possible 
one.


Second quote is much harder to interpret differently for me though.

"I've seen what you become without it" seems like pretty definite 
indication that this creature symbolises the future state of Voldie 
to me.

JMO,

Alla