Said creature under the bench..

doddiemoemoe doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 22 08:25:45 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 176024

So much discussion about it...none of which has made up my mind 
other than one sniggling thought...

Said soul bit has helped Harry over the years...in book one..the 
suspcion of snape...the placing of hands upon quirrelmort, the 
opening of the cos(see..told you that the basilisk was 
confused..apparently Harry did have some control(go back 
reread..Harry wanted help and the basilisks tail whipped the sorting 
hat over I believe)..I'm not delving into this only because all of 
my copies of cos are with my kids at this mo..in poa Harry insisted 
Sirius and Lupin not kill PP (but was that his ONLY influence?) And 
then there is possed Ginny(possessed by a horcrux) and Harry (also a 
heir of slytherin but also possed by a soul bit) opening the 
chamber..(yep ron does so too--but after wearing that locket--
whew...like ginny and the diary all over again)..did Voldie cast 
charms over his horcruxes that purebreeds would only be especially 
suseptible?(harry would never count seeing as he had a part of 
voldie's soul imbeded in his forehead)..

Then in GOF, the entire battle scene was more than a battle between 
brother wands...it was a battle between Voldie, Harry, and the soul 
bit w/in Harry...(because harry pulled away early we never knew who 
actually won..just who escaped and got away)...(who actually won 
Voldie? Harry? now we know(or at least I believe) it was Harry 
and "soul bit"..

Then we come to oop...and here was the crux of my theory which was 
proved wrong...but at least I was on the right track..

When Harry was possed by Voldie who could not bear it and soon 
left..I thought soul bit may want to return to it's master...
It didn't...(did it choose a new master? but if it did..JKR already 
said Harry could no longer speak parseltongue)
And if there was such a creature beneath said chair..there could 
only be one reason why DD/Harry believed it was beyond help...then 
the only thing keeping Voldie tied to life was Harry's blood, which 
voldie wouldn't have recognized ever!

So now I'm confused, only because it hasn't been bought up yet..

JKR says that Harry is no longer a parseltongue...

What's right? Harry no longer being a parsel tongue because of said 
Being under the bench...or Voldie's last piece of soul hence his 
last bit is in nagini?

But Ron can speak parsel tongue on a basic level.  LOL--at least to 
do an "open says me").
Hence I thought the creature under said bench was the soul piece 
w/in Harry.

And I completely understand those reasons why those who don't agree 
with me believe otherwise.

I just thought the Harry going to death in the forest scene with 
Voldie ak'ing Harry Voldie was knocked out because he destroyed an 
unkown Horcrux and for once, he felt it..(I always like this because 
if he was knocked out by destroying the scarcrux in the forrest, 
then I can only imagine what sort of pain he may have felt when 
Neville destroyed Nagini.(whoohoo Go NEVILLE!) 

And its so ironic...with Harry going to die to save the WW...turns 
out Voldie murdering a part of himself to save them..What a 
dichotomy! No wonder why his spells weren't so binding...so little 
soul left.

So I'm still confused.

My only thing is if that soul bit w/in Harry did not return home 
after Voldie's posession, then why? and would it truly look like 
that which was under the bench--remember said bit at least in my 
theory has helped harry in the past? (Did Harry finally employing 
occlumency force it out? then why not before?

If not, then *I* have to go back and re-think the ending all over 
again...(thank heavens it's not a Snape issue--at least until 
someone else swings it around there LOL)

Just looking for some more input here..





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