Another inconsistency?

doddiemoemoe doddiemoemoe at yahoo.com
Tue Aug 28 06:51:09 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 176333

 "smartone564"/Toner wrote:
>
> I thought Fenrir had a dark mark?
> 
> During the tower scene at the end of HBP, a group of DEs join DD,
> Harry and Draco up on the top of the tower, and the rest of the 
OotP can't get up the stairs due to some magical wall except for 
Snape.  At the time, the reasoning for this was that only people 
with Dark Marks could go through the invisible wall.
> 
> However, in DH, Fenrir cannot enter the Malfoy Manor, even though 
it appeared you needed a Dark Mark to go through the gate (like 
Snape and Amycus in the first chapter).  Also, he couldn't summon LV 
because he didn't have a Dark Mark and was relying on one of the 
Malfoys or Bellatrix to call him.  From the situation and Fenrir's 
attitude, he certainly would've called LV if he could.
 
*miniscule snip*
Doddie here: 

This has been bothering me too...so I went back to look at that 
dreaded episode in HBP..

Upon my reread I thought that Gibbon the DE that set the dark mark 
off upon the tower also cast the "barrier spell"...hence in the heat 
of battle Neville who seemed to be hot on the tracks was immediately 
thrown back after Lupin tried to get through too..(so we know that 
the barrier doesn't work for werewolves in and of themselves). 
Although, it doesn't mean that one of the runners set it up behind 
them...but you're right we have the Fenrir herring in there.

And then we learn in DH that Fenrir has no dark mark, yet is upon 
the tower...(has to be something more in that). Also, maybe the DE's 
would never consider that there was anything other than the DE's 
there--somehow I get the feeling that Voldie sent Fenrir along so 
Draco would do as he was told(which he did not) and also to back 
Snape into a corner to choose sides(because there is little doubt 
that after the episode in spinner's end that Bella ran right back to 
Voldemort and told him--which I love that Snape knew all about 
loyalties---blast wormtail away...let me play upon Bella's 
insecurities...sheesh I wonder how different the series would have 
been if Snape and Harry had been on the same page, if not 
necessarily liking each other..). 

So I'd go for a DE token to get through said barrier..and after all 
Fenrir didn't kill DD so he didn't achieve dark mark status.(hence 
Draco Malfoy's reactions whenever Fenrir is mentioned(even when he 
brings Fenrir up himself) the one threat Draco gave out the most, 
turns out to be the one he fears the most.(that Fenrir would be 
honored above his family who are definitely on the outs with Voldie) 
would only enoble him further to pursue his quest hence he even 
pushed Snape's offer of help away. Draco threatened Borgin with 
Fenrir(hence Draco knew competition for the task was there and 
probably upon his mother's stroke of genius he did this so that 
Borgin wouldn't give Fenrir any MORE info than what he gave Draco.) 
and of course, Borgin would never feel threatened by Fenrir because 
Draco told Borgin Fenrir was just helping him.  Draco showed his 
dark mark which probably didn't frighten Borgin either...Voldie 
would never mess with him, I think Borgin would know too much about 
the Riddle that Voldemort doesn't want anyone else to know about. 
I'm quite sure that DD obtained a great deal of information from Tom 
Riddle's first employers..

Doddie,
(who thinks Voldie never got most of it until Harry tossed the name 
of Voldemort out the window and addressed him as Riddle turns out 
all of his names turned out to be a ...well...joke..*snicker* and 
who'd also hate to parallel Occluency lessons between Harry/Snape 
and Bella/Draco.) 







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