The Fundamental Message.../ Heroes...

horridporrid03 horridporrid03 at yahoo.com
Tue Aug 28 12:03:29 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 176341

> >>BetsyHp:
> > The US Constitution, the Bill of Rights. Those are two guiding
> > principles set up without connection to a specific leader or a
> > specific deity. They were purposefully written that way because  
> > the Founding Fathers *knew* how easily corrupted a personal      
> > leader could be.

> >>Jen:  Dumbledore must have agreed with that reasoning about 
> government since he continually refused the MOM position, cognizant 
> of his own weakness.  

Betsy Hp:
Heh.  True. <g>  Though I don't give him any points because, IMO, it 
just meant he used his fear as an excuse to duck out of work.  
Working for a government body doesn't mean you're out to control the 
world (see the Founding Fathers, again).  But it's the perfect place 
to challenge the status quo and set forth some new ideals.

> >>Jen:  Apparently Dumbledore was one of the most incompetent cult-
> of- personalities ever. <g>

Betsy Hp:
He got people to sacrifice their lives, the lives of their children, 
and their own souls for him.  He also succeeded in having the 
children under his power form a group that encouraged members to turn 
on their families and viciously retaliate against any breach of 
loyalty.  Dumbledore did all right. <g> 

> >>Jen:
> Dumbledore and the Order, a very small portion of the WW           
> population, had a pretty limited goal in both wars: set out to      
> recruit followers who were willing to oppose Voldemort and his     
> ideology.
> <snip>

Betsy Hp:
I *know*.  It was so... petty.  We are gathered here today to destroy 
this guy.  Really?  That's your entire purpose of being?  What an 
utter waste.  All those books, all that time spent in Harry-agnst, 
and his entire purpose is to destroy Voldemort.  Take down one man.

I mean, the WW is exactly as it was when Voldemort came to power, so 
it's not like Dumbledore, Harry or the Order have achieved anything 
to slow down the next Evil Overlord when he or she pops up.  Harry is 
a happy slave owner, the Houses are still ranked and at each other's 
throats, magical creatures are still on the bottom of the pile.  
Probably about the only thing that's changed is it's a bad thing to 
be a pure-blood (as per Ron's little remark).  Which just means a 
change in fashion, not a change in outlook or understanding.  So, 
yeah... petty.  


Betsy Hp





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