New Inconsistency - Shell Cottage

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Wed Aug 29 01:09:02 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 176379

<<Sharon:
The Fidelius Charm was put on the house right at the beginning of DH when the 
7 Harry's were all leaving Privet Drive. I had thought all their destinations were 
covered by the Fidelius Charm -- or was it some other protection? If the 
protection WAS in the form of a Fidelius Charm then that would mean probably 
that all the order were in on the locations and able to go to them. However, 
when Lupin visits Shell Cottage with the news of his baby, he has to identify 
himself. Harry doesn't do that when he arrives with Dobby, but that could be 
because they saw him, were waiting for him >>
   
  Sharon,
   
  A few ideas in answer to this. 
   
  First what we have to remember is that the Fidelius charm on Griimauld place was cast by by Dumbledore. The Fidelus charm at Shell cottage is put on by Bill. Anything done by Dumbledore is going to have more bells and whistles and be stronger than Bill's work, decent wizard thoug he is. 
   
  Bills Fidelus is just not as 'secret as Dumbledore's'. We see no evidence for instance that the name of Shell cottage had to be written om paper etc. 
   
  Most likely Bill's Fidelus just protects against people finding the cottage who want to do them harm; or is just a shield against certain named people.
   
  We run into a trap when we try to analyze spells cast by Dumbledore and compare them to those cast by others. JKR has made it clear, that Dumbledore is different. He's a rare genius that can do things others can', or at least can do them quicker and more spectacular. 
   
  I can paint. And so can a professional artist. We can even paint the same picture of the same object. Guess whose is going to be better, more impressive?
   
  Even in real life the magic of illusion is an art. The same spell in the arms of a truly magical magician as Dumbledore is just magical even to magicians.
   
  Also in JKR's world rmagic is slightly different and unique to each caster, a prime example of this being patronus and the types of boggarts people have.  
   
  Some things are going to be pretty basic. All AK are green, all stunner are red, but maybe the shade varies. Or the roaring sound of hte AK slightly. The power involved will fluctuate too. Many spells are effected by emotion state. You can't cast crucio unless you mean it. etc....I think that was a point, JKR was trying to make throughout the book.  
   
   BTW do we know canon wise that is was Dumbledore that placed the Fidelus on Godrics Hollow?. I seem to remember that it was Sirius, but that might just be fan fic contamination. 
   
  Lupin has to identify himself when he comes to Shell cottage, but that had nothing to do with the Fidelus charm, it is an example of the cautious approach the Weasleys take to vistors, as in HBP. 
   
  As to the third point
   
  Not only were Bill and Fleur waiting for him, but it you follow the logic of the story  were probably about to go to help him, since Dean and Luna had just moments before raced up to the cabin screaming for help. Bill and Fleur difinitely know who Luna is and there is a small chance the by this point Dean was already a minor member of the Order, since he was traveling with Ted Tonks, who was a member.   
   
  DA Jones (Sandy)  .      

       
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