Snape's Role/ dark magic
teddyb142002
teddyb14 at swbell.net
Fri Aug 31 04:34:04 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 176483
> Alla:
> So, what did Harry reap when he showed up on that first lesson?
> When he has not seen Snape before in his life?
Ted:
I certainly wouldn't deny that Snape drew first blood. A
reprehensible thing for any teacher to do for sure. However,
as the story progresses, Harry is no saint in the relationship
either. I simply think that holding a grudge for the sake of
the grudge is unproductive. Would showing the professor a little
respect has caused a great reconciliation? Most likely not, but
holding a grudge certainly didn't get him any closer to a man
who knew and loved his mother and could tell him about her. That
is truly a loss in my opinion, and that is truly the tragedy of
this relationship.
> > It is also certainly necessary for Snape to keep up his image
> > with the death eaters as well,
> Alla:
> Except we **know** now that Snape was not maintaining any image
> with the death eaters when he mistreated Harry, no?
> He was doing just that mistreating Harry because he wanted to,
> no?
Ted:
Why does he not have to maintain an image with the death eaters?
Doesn't his treatment of Harry help him to return to Voldemort
and gain his confidence which is essential to the plan? But I
still don't believe that image is his main motivation.
Certainly he mistreats Harry for his own pleasure. This is part
of his selfishness that I can't get past. If he REALLY loves Lily
in a truly selfless way, shouldn't he make a better effort with
her son? It seems to me that Snape is taking out his frustrations
for his own past failure on Harry.
> Alla:
> Exactly. I do not even care if he never got past his bitterness
> towards James, although one would think that Snape helping to
> make James dead should sort of satisfy his revenge for the school
> years, but whatever - they were enemies in school. If Snape wants
> to continue hating dead man, that's his legitimate choice.
> But do I think Snape owed Harry to see Lily in him? To try no
> matter how freaking hard it was for him do so. Oh yes. Partially
> because of you Snape this boy has no mother and no father. Grow
> up and treat him decently, says me :)
Ted:
I think growing up and treating Harry decently is beyond Snape.
Emotionally, he just isn't capable of that kind of maturity. Yet
his love for Lily was still powerful enough to begin Voldemort's
defeat.
> Because you see, before book 7 I kept saying that to believe
> Snape's remorse I need to hear it from him. Well, I see that
> he was remorseful for Lily, but what makes it so very hard to
> respect him all together is that I saw **zero** remorse for
> what Snape made Harry's life into, for what he shaped him to
> be. As far as I mknow Snape was perfectly fine with Harry
> being marked, his sufferings because of that, etc. I find it
> despicable. And I refuse to cut Snape any slack for that. IMO
> of course.
Ted:
Snape can't see past himself to see what he did to Harry's life,
but selfishness doesn't make you evil in my book. Selfishness is
ignorance of love. Evil is attempting to abolish love.
Ted
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