[HPforGrownups] Re: Lily and Petunia

Janette jnferr at gmail.com
Fri Aug 31 12:01:27 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 176487

>
> Potioncat:
> I grew up in a Southern (US) town that had many textile mills. Often
> the mills built housing for the workers. So that the common workers
> had small houses, the foremen had nicer homes and the managers had
> even better accomodations. I imagine it was similar in British mill
> villages. (Does anyone know?)


montims:
oh gosh, hard to explain to a non Brit, but I lived in Derbyshire or a time,
and all around were these streets and streets and streets of little dingy
terraced houses, stretching for ever - originally (150 years ago?) of red
brick, now grimy and dreary.  Has anyone seen Coronation Street?  Does this
long link work?
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/a/a4/Coronationstreetlogo1960.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.answers.com/topic/coronationstreetlogo1960-jpg&h=240&w=360&sz=48&hl=en&start=27&um=1&tbnid=erIYhsEN8VxTZM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=140&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcoronation%2Bstreet%26start%3D18%26ndsp%3D18%26svnum%3D100%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

My grandmother lived in one of these tiny blackened houses (not a Coronation
Street one...) and it was literally 2 up 2 down - the front door (never
opened) into the parlour, which opened into the kitchen with its back door
that everybody used, and two bedrooms upstairs.  There was a shared walled
yard for her and some dozen neighbours, with the wash house in it, and the
outhouses in a long line.  Everything you touched outside was grimy, despite
the women compulsively scrubbing and washing to keep everything clean.

Has anyone read DH Lawrence?  I have always seen Petunia as a Gertrude Morel
type (Sons and Lovers), except that she married well, and lived with Vernon
in Little Whinging.  If, due to circumstances, she has married as Gertrude
did, I think her bitterness and resentments would have come out the same
way...

England had its cotton mills too, but I see Spinners End and Snape's
upbringing in a pit town - coal mines - with its accompanying filth and
squalour and misery...

YMMV...


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