DD and Horcruxes/ Scrimgeour

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No: HPFGUIDX 179552

Zara:
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So to me, the question becomes, at the time OotP ended, was it
reasonable for Dumbledore to keep the Horcruxes secret? My own answer
is yes. Whether a wider circle of people than just the Trio could be
trusted with the secret at that point is open to debate - with 20/20
hindsight, for example, we can assert that Snape died still enjoying
what passes for Voldemort's trust, so that the secret would have been
safe with him despite his precarious position 'dangling on
Voldemort's arm', and there are doubtless others of whom similar
arguments could be made.

But to publish the secret in the Daily Prophet, I remain convinced,
would have been a grave error. It could have jolted Voldemort out of
his confidence in the secrecy of his Horcruxes and hiding places, and
the number of searchers would not, in my view, overcome the
possibilities in Rowling's universe for using magic to hide them
irretrievably.
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Alla:

Eh, did anyone make the argument of publishing the horcruxes in Daily 
Prophet? If anybody did and I missed it, then sure I do not subscribe 
to it either.

But to keep it quiet from the people who are supposed to be your 
comrads in arms and who are supposed to help you?

I mean of course Order and I think DA members as well, and I think 
the best argument for it was made by a_svirn that Battle of Hogwarts 
may have never ever happened, had Mcgonagall and DA members knew that 
they were supposed to look for something.

I mean, Mcgonagall, his Deputy Headmistress, and he **still** did not 
trust her. I mean, I never bought into evil Minerva theories, but I 
certainly understand how those theories came to life.

I mean, WHY why would Dumbledore not trust her of all people? It fits 
for me with his character, but it certainly does not fit for me with 
any logic.

Pippin:
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But after years of trying and failing to get the Ministry to
realize that Voldemort was outwitting it at every turn is it so
unrealistic that Dumbledore was sure that involving them in the
Horcrux hunt would do more harm than good?
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Alla:

Actually I find it very realistic if we look at Dumbledore's behavior 
as the man who tried and got burned, BUT not if we look at 
Dumbledore's behavior from the outside, if that makes sense.
I totally agree for example that if Fudge was still in charge of MoM, 
I would not hold it against Dumbledore at all that he would not 
bother with the ministry.

But I think he ought to at least try when new minister came along, 
maybe they would have understood each other, or maybe not.

My main beef with Dumbledore's secrecy though is the not trusting 
members of the order part AND also forbidding Harry to share with 
anybody else, but Trio instead of encouraging him to share with the 
DA members.

With ministry, I think he should have just tried more, but he indeed 
tried in the past.

Pippin:
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I was surprised and touched by the manner of Scrimgeour's
death, but he never asked Harry to rally the people to fight 
Voldemort.
He wanted them to think that Harry, the Chosen One, was going
to fight Voldemort, and they didn't have to do a thing but trust
the Ministry.
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Alla:

Good point.