Whom did Dumbledore torture and killed? WAS: Re: re:Scrimgeour/WerewolfBites

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No: HPFGUIDX 179779

> > Magpie:
> > I don't know what Dumbledore's killing record is, but Harry's 
> > statement and Dumbledore's answer implies pretty explicitly that 
> > they both agree he has indeed killed. 
> 
> Allie:
> 
> That's how I read it, also, although I did wonder how Harry could
> know that since we never hear that for sure.  I assumed it was along
> the lines of Mad-Eye Moody bringing the Death Eaters in alive if 
> possible.  So as for the "whom," I would venture a guess at some 
> nameless Death Eaters.
>

Harry knew that Dumbledore was responsible for Snape's death.  
Dumbledore was aware of the Hallows, having searched for them all his 
life and having owned the Elder Wand.  Dumbledore says he intended 
for the wand to pass to Snape without a fight.  Moreover, he knew 
that plan hadn't worked out, that Draco had in fact disarmed him.  
But even if Snape had taken possession of the "Elder Wand," his life 
would conceivably been forfeit.  He couldn't have used the Elder Wand 
to protect himself, since its magic would have been broken if 
Dumbledore's plan worked out.

Speculation part:  Dumbledore must have asked Snape what Voldemort 
was up to, so he must have known that Voldemort was holding a 
wandmaker, that Voldemort had taken Lucius Malfoy's wand, that 
Voldemort was traveling all over the world on some kind of quest.  
What about the escape of Ollivander from the Malfoy mansion?  Do you 
think Snape didn't hear about that and report it to Dumbledore?

Dumbledore could have warned Snape about the Elder Wand at any 
time... but he didn't.  He coldly kept his secrets and sacrificed 
Snape to Voldemort's whim.  No matter how the Elder Wand ownership 
fell, Snape could not have won.

"That part of the plan didn't work out."  Harry knew that Dumbledore 
was responsible for Snape's death.  Harry all but says so at the end 
in his explanation to Voldemort about the Elder Wand.

"Poor Severus."

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