The Core of the Elder Wand and other new JKR explanations

adayania kspilman at hotmail.com
Tue Dec 11 04:13:32 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 179786

That was very beautiful.  I was very moved by that.  Thank you.

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
>
> ---  "muscatel1988" <cottell@> wrote:
> >
> > ---  "Carol" <justcarol67@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Does anyone besides me find this information less than 
> > > helpful, even possibly annoying?
> 
> > Mus.:
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> > And when you talk about LV's soul being a stunted, maimed 
> > baby, can't you see that you're creating an image that's 
> > likely to trigger pity? "Unwanted, stuffed out of sight, 
> > struggling for breath" - that's what he always was, from 
> > the beginning, and that's how you chose to end him.  
> > Sauron was at least a grown-up.
> > 
> > Mus.
> >
> 
> bboyminn:
> 
> I'm not really clear on what your objections is here. Is
> it to Voldemort being portrayed as a 'baby', because I
> don't think most people read that as truly a baby, only
> that he had a baby-like body or form. I think the image
> in Goblet of Fire in the Graveyard scene, both in the books
> and in the movies, closely represents what JKR is trying to
> portray. Voldemort has a stunted and diminished baby-like
> form which indicates how much Voldemort has hurt himself.
> 
> He can create a normal full sized human body, but his true
> self both physical and spiritual is incredibly stunted.
> 
> As far as making Voldemort sympathetic. I think most people
> view him as so. Those who choose the path of evil are to 
> be pitied not scorned. The Dalai Lama, Christ, Ender Wiggin,
> and JKR taught me that I must love my enemy even while I
> do not forgive their sins and transgressions. So, yes, I
> feel sympathy and regret for Voldemort and the choices he
> made. Yet, at the same time, I hold him fully accountable
> for his choices and actions. 
> 
> But this 'stunted self' is NOT how Tom always was. At one
> time he was a handsome healthy boy with all the potential
> in the world. He could have been Minister of Magic, he
> could have been a wealthy and powerful businessman with
> international influence, he could have been anything, but
> he let petty emotions and fears rule him, and he paid dearly
> for that choice.
> 
> As far as Sauron being a grown-up, regardless of Voldemort's
> physical form, he has lived many years, roughly 70 or more,
> and he is a grown-up in every way except he can't let go of
> his irrational fears. Irrational fears that drive him to 
> control everyone and everything around him and to do so
> without a shred of mercy or compassion. He is certainly
> not a 'baby' in the truest sense of the word.
> 
> Yes, many circumstances came into play, but Voldemort is 
> what he chose to be, just as Harry is what he chose. In our
> modern world we frequently confuse explanation with 
> forgiveness. You might be able to explain why some 16 year
> old entered his school with a gun and started shooting, you
> might even feel some compassion knowing the circumstances
> that drove him to it, yet, we do and we must hold him
> accountable for the choices he made. Just as, irregardless
> of his circumstance, we must hold Voldemort accountable.
> 
> Not sure if that addresses your objection at all, but there
> it is.
> 
> Steve/bboyminn
>






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