DD killed Quirrell? (was: re:Scrimgeour/WerewolfBites/Legilimency/DDsecrecy)

Carol justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 12 16:37:37 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 179816

Carol earlier:
> >
> > Nevertheless, it's confirmed by Voldemort himself in GoF:
> >
> > "The servant died when I left his body, and I was left as weak as
I had ever been" (GoF Am. ed. 654).
> >
> > Carol, noting that the snakes and other small animals that
Vapormort possesses also die when he uses up their life force
> 
> 
> Shelley:
> I think it's pretty clear that DD did not kill Quirrell; Voldemort
did when he possessed Quirrell in the first place, and once the two
were separated, dead was imminent. DD may have been able to extract a
memory from Quirrell before that final dead breath was taken, but even
if extracting a memory hastened the process, it was a certainty that
Quirrell was not long for this earth (a few hours maybe) anyway.
Personally, I think that Quirrell only had a few minutes when DD found
him and got the memories from him.
>
Carol responds:

Evidently, my intended meaning wasn't clear. (Sorry about the vague
pronoun "it's"!) I agree with you that *Voldemort* killed Quirrell,
who died when LV left his body. Dumbledore had nothing to do with it.
I don't think we need to speculate about Legilimency being involved.
There's no evidence for it that I can see. Both Dumbledore and
Voldemort, the only people who would know since Harry was unconscious
and Quirrell is dead, state that Voldemort left Quirrell to die. His
life force or soul had clearly been used up as Ginny's nearly is in
CoS and as the life force of the beasts that Voldemort possesses
before Wormtail finds him also is ("[Wormtail's] filthy little friends
told him there was a place deep in an Albanian forest, that they
avoided, where small animals like themselves met their deaths by a
dark shadow that possessed them," GoF Am. ed. 655).

All Dumbledore did to Quirrell was to pull him off Harry and prevent
him from taking the Stone (SS Am. ed. 297). There's no indication that
DD used Legilimency or did anything else to Quirrell. At that point
Voldemort, apparently realizing that he was not going to get the
Stone, abandoned Quirrell, leaving him to die. (Evidently, the unicorn
blood was all that sustained Quirrell once Voldemort had parasitically
sucked the life force from him, but I realize that I'm speculating on
this detail.)

Carol, realizing that the Dumbledore's explanation is rather vague but
it's supported by Voldemort's account, which also places the blame for
Quirrell's death on Voldemort





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