CHAPDISC: DH Ch 9, A Place to Hide

Mike mcrudele78 at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 13 04:14:06 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 179827

> Carol:
> Killing unconscious people, Death Eaters or not, is murder. I
> would have been most unhappy with both Rowling and the characters
> if they had done any such thing. You don't lower yourself to the
> bad guys' level if you're a good guy 

Mike:
Agreed, but why don't they take their wands? What is it with the 
Trio, it takes Harry getting his wand broke and being without one 
himself for any of them to finally think about disarming the enemy.

In the battle of the DoM, Harry, Hermione and Neville had 
incapacitated three DEs (besides the baby-head modified DE) and they 
took none of their wands. Despite the fact that they know Accio and 
Hermione had already used it to retrieve Harry's wand. To have three 
wandless DEs in the penultimate battle, would have meant seven DEs 
versus five Order members and Harry. Much better odds, wouldn't you 
say?

And what is Harry's "signature spell", according to Lupin's way of 
interpreting the DE's response? **Expelliarmus** the DISARMING charm.
This inconsistency makes no sense to me. Harry stuns Rowle twice in 
DH and takes his wand neither time. Same for the other DEs and 
Umbridge (I'd a broke her wand <eg>). Ron at least grabs more than 
his own wand when he escapes the snatchers. It takes Harry until 
the Malfoy Manor chapter to get this strategy.


> mz_annethrope:
> 
> What bothers me is that she [Hermione] knows how to erase memories.

Mike:
Apparently not as well as she thinks. As Juli pointed out in her 
summary: "Voldemort is very upset and disappointed in Rowle, he has 
let Harry escape once again. And worse, he's making Draco torture 
Rowle." How would Rowle know he let Harry escape and have been able 
to report that to Voldemort, if Hermione had just erased his memory 
a few hours ago? The Taboo doesn't indicate *who* said Voldemort's 
name, it only acts like an locater beacon. (More bad JKR magic?)


Carol:
I *was* a Girl Scout. I'm proud of that experience. Sorry. I really
was never more than a Brownie Scout, but I couldn't resist parodying
a certain (now dead) U.S. President.

Mike:
The only unelected President, Gerry Ford. What do I win? <BG>
Oh, I won't comment on which of us is younger. <g>





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