CHAPDISC: DH Ch 9, A Place to Hide

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 179935

---  "potioncat" <willsonkmom at ...> wrote:
>
>  
> > Carol responds:
> > 
> > But she's not using it for a dark purpose. She's using 
> > her own spirit guardian (JKR's description of a Patronus)
> > to protect herself, ...
> > 
> 
> Potioncat:
> Good point. Between her own "Darkness" and the fact that she
> seemed magically inept at Hogwarts, I was surprised she could
> cast and maintain a Patronus. 
> 
> ...

bboyminn:

Here's the thing, as I have pointed out many times before much
to everyone's annoyance I'm sure, there is Dark and there is
dark, the two not necessarily being the same.

True Umbridge is a nasty rotten evil person, so in that sense
she could be called 'dark', but since she doesn't seem to be a
practitioner of the DARK ARTS, we can't really call her
'Dark'. 
> 
> > ...
> 
> > 
> > Carol, snipping the stuff on Snape but thinking that 
> > possibly he was there on LV's orders to search for anything
> > that could be used against the Order ...
> 
> 
> Potioncat:
>
> ...
> 
> As for Hermione's being able to cast a Messenger Patronus.
> Ron calls it a talking Patronus thing. Oh, give me a break!
> You'd think he'd at least know the name for it--or to come
> up with one as good as ours. So it appears that if Hermione
> was being taught by someone--and I suspect she was---that 
> Ron wasn't.

bboyminn:

Here is the difference between Hermione and Ron. Hermione
seeks out information, Ron on the other hand, simply accepts
information that comes to him. 

Hermione knows at least the theory behind the Messenger
Patronus because she sought out the information both in
her own brain and in the world around her.

Ron won't seek out the information. True, he will learn it
if someone offers to teach him, but he will not seek out
and ask to be taught. 

Consequently Hermione /thinks/ she knows how and Ron doesn't 
have a clue. Typcial day at the office.

> Potioncat:
> 
> But why did JKR even bring it up if Hermione is never going
> to cast the charm?
>

bboyminn:

Because if she hadn't brought it up in the books, we certainly
would have wondered why in our discussions. Keep the fans 
happy, or at least content.

Just a thought.

Steve/bboyminn