Sirius and his lawless ways WAS: Re: CHAPDISC: DH10, Kreacher's Tale

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 180098

Potioncat:
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The part that intrigues me is that Kreacher says of Sirius, "Master
Sirius ran away, good riddance, for he was a bad boy and broke my
Mistress's heart with his lawless ways." Which "lawless" ways?
Attempted murder at 16 on an innocent Slytherin youth? Frequent
episodes of being out of bounds at Hogwarts? Owning a magically
enhanced Muggle motorcycle? Would the Black family have viewed Sirius
as many of us do--rash, unthinking, self-centered? (Young Black, that
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Alla:

I am not sure that "attempted murder at 16 of innocent Slytherin 
youth"  is something that occurred before Sirius run away from home, 
so I am not sure how she would have known, but I can be fuzzy on 
timelines. I am putting it in parenthesis, because that is as I am 
sure you know not my description of the prank, had never been one 
and 
especially not one after DH which convinced me one hundred percent 
that Snape knew or at least suspected very much who Remus was and 
still went there. So, innocent in my mind Snape was not and 
attempted murder I see no proof in canon either. But that is 
obviously my opinion.


In any event, certainly what you describe can be Sirius' lawless 
ways 
that Ma Black had in mind or maybe that is what Kreacher had in mind.

But it can also be that Sirius' lawless ways in Ma Black head were 
his 
determination to be the first Black to change the order of the 
things, 
the unwritten laws that Blacks do not get sorted into Gryffindor.

For some reason I am not sure how Ma Black would learned about 
Sirius' 
being out of bound with other Marauders either.

So, yeah, what I am trying to say I do not know where and how Blacks 
would have learned about those episodes of rule breaking or law 
breaking that you described.

I mean, motocycle I can see them knew, I guess, but anything else?

Dumbledore did not know about them being animagi and Blacks family 
did? I am not sure.

JMO,

Alla