Christian Forgiveness and Snape (was Would Harry forgiving )

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 164479

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Jen Reese" <stevejjen at ...> wrote:
> So Dumbledore  wasn't even considering what Harry's dead parents 
would have wanted  for him--what parent could choose blood protection 
over love, warmth  and real home?  He's telling Harry he made a choice
based on the  information he had at the time and what *he* believed was right. 

 And  I believe he shut off his compassion for Harry to make that 
> choice, 'the twinkling light that usually shone from Dumbledore's 
> eyes seemed to have gone out', and attempted to replace it with 
> compassion for the WW.

Pippin:
Well in this case they're the same thing.  You make it sound as 
if not preparing Harry to fight Voldemort would somehow have 
saved him from having to do it, and that's just not supported by canon. 
Haven't we seen enough of Voldemort's implacability to know that 
he would never have given up? What other choice did Dumbledore 
have, except the equivalent of hospice -- keep the patient 
comfortable and wait for the end? 

Many parents would choose otherwise.  Would James and Lily  let a 
premature Harry be stuck in an isolette, masked, taped with sensors, 
jabbed with needles, given  poisonous drugs and oxygen that may 
produce permanent side effects such as blindness, in the fragile
hope that it might keep him alive till he's strong enough to survive 
without them? I don't know. Dumbledore can't know. He can only do 
what seems right to him. But parents do make such choices. I'm one of 
them. 

We're  not used  to taking such drastic steps to stop a human
killer as opposed to a physical one. But the principle is the same, 
IMO.

Alla:

Magpie, we are on the same page again, yes. But what I do not get is
not only the argument that Dumbledore somehow gets a right of telling
Harry about the dangers of being extremely pampered, after he stuck
the kid with Dursleys, but also where exactly are the dangers for
Harry to be pampered now?

Suddenly after sixteen years Dursleys would start pampering him?

Pippin:
You saw how Dumbledore made them cower. You think Harry can't
do that? Hasn't he thought about turning Dudley into 
something with feelers?  Harry's already had a taste of 
what the magic words "Chosen One"did to Slughorn. He's
already had Scrimgeour courting his favor. It might occur
to him that the Ministry wouldn't dare take his wand away now.

You think Harry can't have his head turned? Here's my latest Book 
Seven prediction, in honor of the release date announcement.
Harry's pride will bring him to the edge of disaster. Snape's 
presentiments of James-ish behavior are going to turn out to be 
gilt-edged after all. 

Pippin