[HPforGrownups] Re: Happy endings and locked rooms

[Jeremiah LaFleur]

No: HPFGUIDX 164651

"justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:

> the Prophecy, which seems to imply that
> only one will die (obviously Voldemort)
Eggplant
<Big Snip, but loved the post>
"Neither can live while the other survives" is perfectly consistent
with both dieing. Granted the Prophecy does not demand that both die,
but it is consistent with it. All we know for sure is that where there
are now two eventually there will be only one, or perhaps none.
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Jeremiah:

I understand that the prophecy mentions "Neither can live while the other
survives" and I think it is intended for the present, immediate existance of
Harry/LV. But I have to interject a touch of Trelawney.

I have always thought, as have nearly all of us, that Trelawney had a crazy,
fluke "bulls-eye" as far as divination, but her card readings in HBP have
spun my head around so severly I have mental whiplash. Her cards identify
Harry when Harry is hiding from Sybil. Her cards detect the "Lightnig-struck
Tower" several times throughout HBP. It leads me to suspect that
little-Sybil has the strange ability to be a Seer. She has predicted Harry's
eminent death since he first stepped foot in her classroom. And, yes this
can be seen several ways.

Fisrtly, she could mean that Harry kicks the bucket. And I think it's viable
and would make a fantastic ending even though I'd love for him to live.

Second, it could mean that there are lots of people surrounding Harry who
will die. Well, we know this is true. It has happened and will happen even
more in the 7th and final blood-bath of the HP series.

Third, Sybil is just crazy. She has predictions that hit the target and
others where she's just a nutty-old bat who couldn't predict the number of
chimes from a clock tower at noon. She's just gotten lucky.

Fourth, well, I'm sure there's a fourth and beyond but I can only percieve
of three. My office doesn't have a fireplace where I can throw
stinky/perfum-y stuff and "gaze into the future."

Gut instinct says LV will die. My gut-instinct also says Harry's a gonner as
well. The prophecy has a little to do with that, but it's Trelawney's other
predictions that are unwavering (ok, she comees out with Harry getting
married and having lots of kids in OotP but I think Sybil is being giddy and
terribly kind-hearted towards Harry at that point) in her assesment of
Harry's personal future.

And to keep this in perspective: Why is it not possible for Sirius NOT to be
the Grim. Could we have had the vision of the Grim out of Divination class
be true and only a coincidence to Siriu's re-entry into Harry's life?


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