Snape, Lily & the Potions textbook

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No: HPFGUIDX 164865

> Alla:
>  Again, I do not insist that the notes were Lily's, it can totally 
be
> > Snape's but the idea that it cannot be just because it will 
diminish
> > Harry/Snape connection amuses me and I do not agree with it at 
all.
> 
> Magpie:
> Do you mean because the Harry/Snape hatred is already so intense 
it doesn't 
> need the addition of Harry feeling tricked into liking him as the 
HBP? I 
> guess I would agree with that--Harry doesn't need to have bonded 
with the 
> HBP to feel strongly about Snape! But the HBP storyline does seem 
to slot 
> easily into that dynamic and say things about both characters.
> 
> If it's Lily responsible for all that stuff that could certainly 
be 
> dramatic-but in a way that makes me think "Why on earth wasn't 
Lily 
> introduced as a character sooner?" Because...Lily created violent 
Dark Magic 
> spells that almost led to a death by Harry's hand? A spell she 
created to be 
> used on "enemies?" And her Levicorpus spell is being used by DEs?

Alla:

Heeee, sure yes, the Dark spells in the book are the strongest 
argument that this is Snape's book after all ( although I am not 
sure again why JKR cannot go after the Potions being Lily's and DADA 
being Snape).

BUT the funny thing is that I would **love** for those spells to be 
Lily's as well, hehe. Could be the flaw I am longing for Saint!Lily 
to have and nice connection of Harry's using the spells which his 
Good but not perfect mom created during the experiments of her youth.



Magpie:
> I know JKR tends to layer people and give them contradictions, but 
it seems 
> like we're going to need more than one book to deal with the Dark 
Mother 
> that is Lily in this scenario. She's sounding a bit Galadriel 
under the 
> power of the Ring!

Alla:

Oh man, I am sitting here giggling about *Galadriel under the power 
of the ring* comparison. You sure have a way with words, love it.

To sum up - I sure get the dramatic possibilities and big one of the 
book being Snape and if it was the last book, sure , why not.

It is just with one book left and with JKR hinting strongly about 
big revelations about Lily, well, I am just not sure that we can be 
so sure of our instincts of where the story is going, you know?

Here is the most obvious example - DD's death. Did you have any 
doubt that Dumbledore would die in book 6 or 7? I had none , 
although I expressed hope that JKR would do something which I would 
consider more creative and unusual and will not kill him.

But in something based on hero journey as Herself said - wise old 
mentor always dies, so anybody can predict DD fate, no?

But please tell me honestly did you at all expected DD death by 
Snape's hand before book 6?  Not while you were reading HBP, because 
I know some people figured it out since Spinner end, but after OOP, 
did you think of that at all?

What hints in the story showed to you **that** possibility, or 
probably what beats?

So, I am not sure that HBP connection with Harry is not a red 
herring, that is all.

JMO,

Alla