Sirius' body WAS:Re: Dumbledore in book 7 (Was: It's more complex than that....)

justcarol67 justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Mon Feb 12 17:44:49 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 164881

Carol earlier:
> > The point would be to give Sirius Black the proper funeral he
never received and to give Harry a chance to accept his godfather's
death as he accepts Dumbledore's. It would also provide a chance for
the WW to be told Black's real story. I don't think the MoM ever
publicly acknowledged its blunder regarding him. To use a jargon term
that I hate, bringing Sirius's body back would give his story "closure."
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Thanks. I guess what I do not get is how bringing the body of the 
> person who is already behind the veil would bring the story closure. 
> I think the only closure which is important IMO of course is Harry's 
> closure and I think, again IMO that Harry can get his closure by 
> talking and saying good buy to Sirius when he is there and leave 
> Sirius left in peace.
> 
> For some reason, and I am sure you did not mean it that way, but 
> this is how it feels to me, if Harry brings Sirius body back, it 
> would feel to me as if diggging his grave. I would hate that.

Carol responds:
That was what I meant: emotional "closure" for Harry of the sort he
receives from Dumbledore's funeral, and an end to Sirius Black's story
because the WW would finally know that he was a good guy who died
fighting a Death Eater rather than an escaped prisoner and supposed
murderer whose story has never properly been told in the Daily
Prophet. The MoM could make an official statement, which they couldn't
do when they didn't have his body. And just seeing the body (having
already spoken to spirit!Sirius) would help Harry to accept that
Sirius wasn't coming back to earth (but he'd know that death isn't the
end of everything, so he could accept that). People complained that
Sirius never had so much as a memorial service. Here's a chance for a
hero's funeral. Why not? It makes sense to me.
> 
> 
Carol earlier: 
> > With regard to the main plot, if one of Harry's Voldie-acquired
powers> is possession, and his method of killing Voldemort is to force
him through the Veil using Love as his weapon, possessing Sirius's
body would provide Harry's soul with a means of transportation back to
the WW. (Voldie's own fractured soul would remain behind with his
body. He, like Sirius Black, would be truly dead. But Harry's soul
would only be, so to speak, along for the ride, and he, unlike the
others, could return.)
> > 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> But why Harry would not be able to find another way back?

Carol:
Maybe, but why not use the means available? Two superfluous bodies
(Sirius Black's and Voldie's), one superfluous soul (Harry's). Using
Black's body would make it (as opposed to Voldie's) available for
burial (and his reputation available for vindication) and it would
provide a means for Harry to escape the Underworld and return to his
own body. What other way would you prefer, assuming that I'm right
about the two-way trip behind the Veil and back?

Carol, who certainly wasn't thinking about "digging Sirius's grave,"
only about giving him the funeral he never had, for Harry's sake (and
Lupin's)
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