Thank You (Re: Dumbledore in book 7)

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 164918

Jeremiah wrote:
> 
> Maria, I think Carol has a point in having Hogwarts stay open. I,
however, think Harry will not attend. (But that's just my take on it.)
I do, however, think that Hermione will attend... not sure about Ron.
(Well, Hermoine needs her library!)

Carol:
Or at least that's another important Hogwarts resource that I forgot
to list in my post!
> 
Jeremiah:
> But we are overlooking something, I think. Just because we have seen
the Portrait of DD and his Pensive in his office at Hogwarts does not
mean that they will stay there. <snip> Also, who's to say that Harry
doesn't get a pensive for himself? Not that he has anywhere to keep
it, but it is a possibility. <snip>

Carol responds:
I don't think Pensieves are very common, and they're probably very
expensive. It would make sense in terms of story economy for DD to
will Harry his Pensieve, along with any appropriate bottled memories,
and for him to keep it at 12 GP rather than Hogwarts if he's staying
there. Of course, the Pensieve is of no use to Harry without other
people's memories since he doesn't know how to remove his own (or
"sift" them to find relationships, either). It would only be a form of
noninteractive time travel for Harry, as far as I can see, a way of
learning about Snape's true motivations via Dumbledore. (If he wants
to learn about Godric's Hollow, he'll have to use his own memory,
which he doesn't yet know how to remove. Maybe Legilimens!Lupin could
do it?)

jeremiah:
> but i do have one question... we see Snape and DD takeing memories
out and putting them back into their heads. What would happen if you
placed someone else's memory into your own head? Hmm... Anyhoo.. That
may be a way to dispense with the Pensive.

Carol:
We've seen that already, remember? Tom Riddle killed the Riddles and
Hepzibah Smith and then placed the memories of those murders in the
heads of the people he framed, Morfin Gaunt and Hokey the house-elf.
Safely to use the Pensieve and not mistake someone else's memories for
your own! Besides, Harry needs to learn how to remove a memory from
his own head, much less someone else's head (imagine what might happen
if he botched the job and got the wrong memory!) before he can explore
it--unless it's already safely bottled--and the only safe way to
objectively explore a memory is a Pensieve. If you could see your own
memories clearly, fully, and objectively without removing them and
placing them in a Pensieve (a pun on pensive + thoughtful and sieve =
sift), there would be no need for a Pensieve.

Carol, noting that Hermione's Ancient Runes studies are another
Chekhov's gun that hasn't been fired and hoping she'll decipher or
translate the runes around the edge of DD's Pensieve