Hagrid, Eggs, and TT!Voldemort

cdayr cdayr at yahoo.com
Tue Feb 13 20:26:19 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 164920

Going over some thoughts I have on what might play in the end from 
CoS, I realized I could re-post my very favorite wacky pet theory, 
that I originally posted way-back-when in the summer of 2004! Check 
it out! It still torments me!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/106761

To get right to it: I think that the "traveler" who gave Hagrid the 
acromantula egg (Aragog) back in TR's Hogwart's years is going to be 
significant in the end, and was, in fact, TimeTurned!Voldemort. 

American pb ed., pg. 277, Aragog says, "I was not born in the 
castle. I come from a distant land. A traveler gave me to Hagrid 
when I was an egg." 

I can give you a number of reasons why I think this will be 
important- read the cited post above for my original theory, but in 
short: it is a very strange word to select- "traveler"- which 
indicates that this fact about the person was significant to both 
Hagrid and Aragog (it is Aragog who calls him/her a traveler- he 
must have learned that from Hagrid). The word is in the book and the 
movie (weird). We know VM is thought to have been a world "traveler" 
during his missing years. And Quirrell!Mort tries the same technique 
to get Hagrid in trouble again in SS/PS, using a dragon egg to get 
info from him instead (so had he done it before?). 

I still cannot figure out why anyone would be handing out 
Acromantula eggs to a 13-year old (or where Hagrid could have met 
this "traveler"- Hogsmeade I suppose) unless it was specifically to 
set up Hagrid as a scapegoat for the opening of the Chamber. The 
only person I can see wanting to do this is Tom Riddle- after all, 
he is the only one who knew a scapegoat was needed. <g> Therefore, I 
propose that during the missing years of Tom's transformation into 
VM, he time-turned into the past and WAS the "traveler" who came to 
Hogwart's and gave Hagrid the egg, to help his young self. 

If this is true, then a second, TT!Voldemort was lurking around for 
years during Tom's transformation. For me, this opens up many 
scenarios in which VM may have given himself access to some of his 
future horcruxes because he was "re-living" a portion of his life, 
and could accomplish what he had failed to do in his first go-round. 
(Perhaps it is the older TT!VM who actually kills Hepzibah, for 
instance.) It also gives him a huge amount of extra time to "become" 
VM, because (as someone charmingly stated in a long ago post) the 
only way back from time turning is The Long Way. His appearance by 
the time he is back to his original time line would be the extreme 
change we know has occurred, because he would be much older than he 
should be, and would have made more of his horcruxes. So I see this 
minor point (the "traveler") as actually being essential to knowing 
where, when, and how VM made his horcruxes, and where they are now. 

I like the idea as well that an older and more corrupted VM existed 
alongside the younger version of himself for a number of years, 
possibly able to advise and guide his younger self towards darker 
and darker magic (from behind a big hood or something <g>). 

I'd love your insights on this theory, which has been percolating 
for so many years for me, but is still forming.

Celia
Who, against all better judgment, still loves thinking about time 
turning, even when it twists her mind into a knot.








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