Weasley Family Dynamics/ Molly

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No: HPFGUIDX 164944

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, James Lyon <jnoyl at ...> wrote:
>
> Molly only seems to have two settings--mean and nasty or 
smothering.  
> She insults the twins when Ron-insecure-git becomes a prefect, she  
> says that now all her sons were prefects. I find very few canon  
> episodes where she is not yelling at her kids or trying to control  
> someone's life.
> How does she treat Sirius--as a child with brain damage and 
emotional disorders. Now, we might say that Sirius did meet those 
conditions,  
> but her treatment of him, in front of Harry and regarding Harry, 
was  
> "the tongue that castrates." Add bastard!Snape into Sirius's  
> enjoyment of being "home" again, and you have some of the best  
> torture-of-the-soul that anyone has been put through--and Dumbles  
> seems to approve.
> Her first three sons were smart enough to get out of the house 
when  
> the getting was good and do not want to spend any more time under 
her thumb then they can help.
> Then, poor Ron, going from the neurotic mother to the neurotic  
> Hermione. Molly wears the pants at the Burrow and, if Ron marries  
> Hermy, she will wear the pants in their house. I can just see Ron  
> being over shadowed by his successful wife while their children 
spend their childhood in various child care institutions. For all of 
us  
> that don't care for Ron that much, we see wife!hermy as the 
ultimate  
> payback.
> The thing in canon through the first six books is that the good 
guys  
> get punished, the bad guys skate, and no one ever comes to Harry's  
> defense (and I don't count Dumbles very limited defense of Harry 
to  
> the Wizengamot). But, don't get me started on all of Dumbles  
> missteps, inadequacies, cruelty, neglect, and hubris. The man 
should  
> have retired 50 years ago.
> Draco throws Cruci- and Harry sends Sectumsempra, and Harry gets in 
trouble and nobody questions Draco or Harry over the self- 
> defense issues and the attempted unforgivable. One thing that 
Harry  
> should be very clear about by now is that there is no justice and  
> nobody sees "just Harry."
> Thanks to Molly and Vernon, Harry would be justified to determine  
> that every family must have a designated yeller and a submissive  
> partner, with the kids either brow-beaten or spoiled rotten.


Alla:

It is funny how extremes of the argument can make me disagree with 
it, even if I would agree with more moderate variety of similar 
argument.

Sure, Molly was cruel to Sirius in his home. Sure she had no right, 
but I believe that she was jealous of Harry seemingly preferring 
Sirius to her and she acted out.

Did I like it? No way, but neither that makes her a horrible human 
being in my book.

Oh, and her oldest sons were smart to get away from her? Could you 
provide any canon for that? Because it seems to me that Charlie and 
Bill do jobs they love and the requirements of those jobs are to live 
abroad. I see no indication  in the books that the reason they took 
their jobs was to get away from their mother. But I will be happy to 
say that I am wrong.

In fact I seemed to remember Bill having quite a wonderful time with 
his mother when they came to see Harry act in TWT, I do not remember 
him screaming get away from me woman, instead he was laughing about 
her stories about her time in school, no?

And yeah, poor Ron indeed. To each their own indeed, but I adore him -
 sweet, loyal, wonderful friend, who indeed has the insecurites, but 
who does not have them?

What you are saying about Harry, well, sure there seem to be no 
justice for him so far and sure not many adults come to his defense, 
no argument about it. 
But I also seem to remember Ron and Hermione standing by him, pretty 
much all the time and JKR pretty much indicated that they are his 
family and isn't family support what matters the most?

And as to the crap Harry comes through, well there is a reason JKR 
wants to apologise to him, hehe.

I am just hoping that the happy ending will follow.

JMO,

Alla.