[HPforGrownups] Bathroom scene again WAS: Re:Weasley Family Dynamics/To t...

[Magpie]

No: HPFGUIDX 164998

> eviljunglechicken:
> So, somehow it is easier to whip out a curse while he is slipping which he
> has never attempted (but one that the readers are told he wants to try)
> rather than one of the ones he practiced and taught to other students.
> Sorry, but I don't follow that reasoning.
>
> It seems like going with what you are familiar with and are experienced 
> with
> would be what would come to mind, especially in a defensive mode.  I'd use
> something I knew would protect me.
>
Sherry:
> I'm the other Sherry on the list.
>
> Actually, Harry was about to be tortured.  In extreme moments, a person 
> who
> knew they were in serious imminent danger of being tortured might reach 
> for
> a nearby gun rather than trying to defend himself with his fists!  A 
> person
> could  panic and do weird things
> he might not do in another situation.  I am amazed at how it seems to be
> that Harry is so bad for trying to defend himself from torture, but Draco 
> is
> an innocent victim.

Magpie:
But that's a straw man! Who's trying to prove that Draco is an innocent 
victim? Everyone has agreed that there was an element of self-defense in 
Harry's own curse. Nobody's claiming that Draco was just standing there and 
Harry attacked him.  So where does this "innocent victim Draco" keep coming 
up?  Where are Draco's actions against Harry being justified? If anything it 
seems like Harry's the one who's getting extra victim points with all the 
horror scenarios of what we should assume would have happened if he hadn't 
thrown this exact curse that he had no way of imagining could possibly be 
aggressive!).

-m